Yards on White and Robinson

WhoDat2301 · 09-08-2014, 11:15 AM

Honestly I want to see if I missed something during the game. Everyone is bashing those two and I want to see if they are right or not. I think the D as a whole including coaching was awful at best last night.

hagan714 · 09-08-2014, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by papz

Plenty of blame to go around. I'm a little surprised you were only able to single out White and Robinson. It was a collective ass whopping. Oak has a nice little thread on their grades you should check out.

Bingo we have a winner

It was a collective ass whopping

TheOak · 09-08-2014, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat2301

Can someone who recorded the game go back and look at how many yards were gained on Robinson and White, when they were in coverage whether or not they made the tackle or not? I am deployed and could not record the game and I cant find any stats on it. If you dont mind put up the stats vs Lewis in coverage. I know our pass rush didnt help anyone on the back end. TIA.

No need to go watching the whole game

if you want to know something just ask me ...

White allowed 6 Rec for 65 yards
Robinson allowed 4 Rec for 87 yards
Hawthorne allowed 5 Red for 67 yards
Lewis allowed 6 Rec for 47 yards
Lofton allowed 5 Rec for 76 yards
Vaccaro allowed 2 Rec for 25 yards
Humber allowed 1 Rec for 19 yards
Bush allowed 1 Rec for 39 yards
Byrd allowed 1 Rec for 23 yards

In the grand scheme of things, the performance of White/Robinson is moot. Lewis stunk it up as well.

Jack Vegas · 09-08-2014, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

No need to go watching the whole game

if you want to know something just ask me ...

White allowed 6 Rec for 65 yards
Robinson allowed 4 Rec for 87 yards
Hawthorne allowed 5 Red for 67 yards
Lewis allowed 6 Rec for 47 yards
Lofton allowed 5 Rec for 76 yards
Vaccaro allowed 2 Rec for 25 yards
Humber allowed 1 Rec for 19 yards
Bush allowed 1 Rec for 39 yards
Byrd allowed 1 Rec for 23 yards

In the grand scheme of things, the performance of White/Robinson is moot. Lewis stunk it up as well.

This is a good post. I don't want to watch this game again. Everybody sucked, let's move on.

WhoDat2301 · 09-09-2014, 12:02 AM

Thanks Oak!!!! You have made the argument of White and Robinson sucking so bad we need Champ back irrelevent. You are right the whole D stunk it up. Hopefully R. Ryan gets in that A$$ and they fix this crap before Sunday.

hagan714 · 09-09-2014, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

No need to go watching the whole game

if you want to know something just ask me ...

White allowed 6 Rec for 65 yards
Robinson allowed 4 Rec for 87 yards
Hawthorne allowed 5 Red for 67 yards
Lewis allowed 6 Rec for 47 yards
Lofton allowed 5 Rec for 76 yards
Vaccaro allowed 2 Rec for 25 yards
Humber allowed 1 Rec for 19 yards
Bush allowed 1 Rec for 39 yards
Byrd allowed 1 Rec for 23 yards

In the grand scheme of things, the performance of White/Robinson is moot. Lewis stunk it up as well.

ILB pass coverage is what really sticks out to me. they do not cover as much field as CB

Beastmode · 09-09-2014, 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by Mardigras9

Ryan spread the ball around very well and with very little pass rush, can't cover everybody. Atlanta's offense just had a great game and they came out on the winning side BARELY.

If you believe they had a great game it's going to be a long season for them not to mention us. They played just as bad on D as we did. They can spin it anyway they want but it took two monster 50+ yard kicks to barely flop over the finish line.

TheOak · 09-09-2014, 06:23 AM

Its all about match up nightmares. We use it every game, every season.

When you have Julio Jones, Roddy White, and Harry Douglas on the field at the same time... Which LB is going to cover the third guy well?

Here are the Thrown At numbers, and the yards after the catch. Now we can see the story of how poor tackling made playing off a worst case scenario.

Hawthorne TA 8 YAC 21
White TA 8 YAC 26
Lewis TA 7 YAC 39
Lofton TA 5 YAC 59
Vaccaro TA 4 YAC 6
Robinson TA 4 YAC 21
Humber TA 2 YAC 3
Byrd/Bush TA 1 each, YAC 4 total between the two.

CharityMike · 09-09-2014, 09:00 AM

Complete FAIL from front to back. Main blame needs to be on the line. They got zero pressure. What really burns my butt is that Gallette couldn't do anything against a very bad LT. The entire line looked slow and out of shape.

rezburna · 09-09-2014, 09:05 AM

The fact that they dropped 500+ yards and still had to go to overtime to win says a lot.

09-08-2014, 11:15 AM	#11
WhoDat2301 WDN Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Travis AFB, CA Posts: 106	Re: Yards on White and Robinson Honestly I want to see if I missed something during the game. Everyone is bashing those two and I want to see if they are right or not. I think the D as a whole including coaching was awful at best last night.

09-08-2014, 11:32 AM	#12
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Yards on White and Robinson Originally Posted by papz Plenty of blame to go around. I'm a little surprised you were only able to single out White and Robinson. It was a collective ass whopping. Oak has a nice little thread on their grades you should check out. Bingo we have a winner It was a collective ass whopping

09-08-2014, 12:05 PM	#13
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,019	Re: Yards on White and Robinson Originally Posted by WhoDat2301 Can someone who recorded the game go back and look at how many yards were gained on Robinson and White, when they were in coverage whether or not they made the tackle or not? I am deployed and could not record the game and I cant find any stats on it. If you dont mind put up the stats vs Lewis in coverage. I know our pass rush didnt help anyone on the back end. TIA. No need to go watching the whole game if you want to know something just ask me ... White allowed 6 Rec for 65 yards Robinson allowed 4 Rec for 87 yards Hawthorne allowed 5 Red for 67 yards Lewis allowed 6 Rec for 47 yards Lofton allowed 5 Rec for 76 yards Vaccaro allowed 2 Rec for 25 yards Humber allowed 1 Rec for 19 yards Bush allowed 1 Rec for 39 yards Byrd allowed 1 Rec for 23 yards In the grand scheme of things, the performance of White/Robinson is moot. Lewis stunk it up as well. WHODATINCA and WhoDat2301 like this.

09-08-2014, 12:14 PM	#14
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Yards on White and Robinson Originally Posted by TheOak No need to go watching the whole game if you want to know something just ask me ... White allowed 6 Rec for 65 yards Robinson allowed 4 Rec for 87 yards Hawthorne allowed 5 Red for 67 yards Lewis allowed 6 Rec for 47 yards Lofton allowed 5 Rec for 76 yards Vaccaro allowed 2 Rec for 25 yards Humber allowed 1 Rec for 19 yards Bush allowed 1 Rec for 39 yards Byrd allowed 1 Rec for 23 yards In the grand scheme of things, the performance of White/Robinson is moot. Lewis stunk it up as well. This is a good post. I don't want to watch this game again. Everybody sucked, let's move on. WhoDat2301 likes this.
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09-09-2014, 12:02 AM	#15
WhoDat2301 WDN Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Travis AFB, CA Posts: 106	Re: Yards on White and Robinson Thanks Oak!!!! You have made the argument of White and Robinson sucking so bad we need Champ back irrelevent. You are right the whole D stunk it up. Hopefully R. Ryan gets in that A$$ and they fix this crap before Sunday.

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09-09-2014, 12:17 AM	#16
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Yards on White and Robinson Originally Posted by TheOak No need to go watching the whole game if you want to know something just ask me ... White allowed 6 Rec for 65 yards Robinson allowed 4 Rec for 87 yards Hawthorne allowed 5 Red for 67 yards Lewis allowed 6 Rec for 47 yards Lofton allowed 5 Rec for 76 yards Vaccaro allowed 2 Rec for 25 yards Humber allowed 1 Rec for 19 yards Bush allowed 1 Rec for 39 yards Byrd allowed 1 Rec for 23 yards In the grand scheme of things, the performance of White/Robinson is moot. Lewis stunk it up as well. ILB pass coverage is what really sticks out to me. they do not cover as much field as CB

09-09-2014, 12:20 AM	#17
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Yards on White and Robinson Originally Posted by Mardigras9 Ryan spread the ball around very well and with very little pass rush, can't cover everybody. Atlanta's offense just had a great game and they came out on the winning side BARELY. If you believe they had a great game it's going to be a long season for them not to mention us. They played just as bad on D as we did. They can spin it anyway they want but it took two monster 50+ yard kicks to barely flop over the finish line.
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09-09-2014, 06:23 AM	#18
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,019	Re: Yards on White and Robinson Its all about match up nightmares. We use it every game, every season. When you have Julio Jones, Roddy White, and Harry Douglas on the field at the same time... Which LB is going to cover the third guy well? Here are the Thrown At numbers, and the yards after the catch. Now we can see the story of how poor tackling made playing off a worst case scenario. Hawthorne TA 8 YAC 21 White TA 8 YAC 26 Lewis TA 7 YAC 39 Lofton TA 5 YAC 59 Vaccaro TA 4 YAC 6 Robinson TA 4 YAC 21 Humber TA 2 YAC 3 Byrd/Bush TA 1 each, YAC 4 total between the two.
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09-09-2014, 09:00 AM	#19
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Yards on White and Robinson Complete FAIL from front to back. Main blame needs to be on the line. They got zero pressure. What really burns my butt is that Gallette couldn't do anything against a very bad LT. The entire line looked slow and out of shape.

09-09-2014, 09:05 AM	#20
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,848	Re: Yards on White and Robinson The fact that they dropped 500+ yards and still had to go to overtime to win says a lot.

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