is henderson that bad

mutineer10 · 12-20-2004, 06:02 AM

We spent a 2nd round pick (passed on ILB/OLB Donterrious Thomas) to pick a player that was completely and totally unneccessary.

Now who\'s the dumb one?

Beyond Don Thomas, we passed on further needs such as:

Michael Boulware - now starting at safety for Seattle
Madieu Williams - starting at safety for Cincinnati
Sean Jones - (was) starting at safety for Cleveland, I think he\'s hurt
Keiwan Ratliff - nickel back for Cincy (3rd on depth chart at CB behind Tory James and Deltha O\'Neal ... not bad company)
Shawntae Spencer - starting at CB for San Francisco

And if we just HAD to have a WR...

Darius Watts - Denver\'s #3 WR
Keary Colbert - stepped in nicely for Steve Smith this year in Carolina

These are players taken after Devery Henderson in just the 2nd round. We\'re not even activating a guy who was taken before promising starters for other teams. Devery showed a little ability in the preseason, when competing against flunkies of his calibre, but even then he didn\'t seem able to run any route except the ol\' sandlot, \"just run straight out and I\'ll throw it to you.\" So much for Saban\'s knack for developing talent.

At least we got Courtney Watson that round...

bayouboy1 · 12-20-2004, 12:55 PM

I mean how dumb can you be.......picture this......Brooks in huddle......\" Henderson..........Henderson......\"huh?\"....go deep.....got it.......go deep......Duh....Yea I got it......GO DEEP.........!!!!!!!!!!!!!
( He will be our secret weapon in the game agains Panthers)

KEEP THE FAITH.........GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

saintfan · 12-20-2004, 01:27 PM

Are you suggesting Haslett plays favorites? There are people on this board that would take offense to that, you know.

Yeah, because if Haz really said Henderson pizzed him off and is refusing to play him because of it then I\'d like to see a link to the article that quotes him saying it.

McCarthy said he would feel comfortable playing Henderson in certain situations. But he said other receivers give the Saints a better chance to win.

\"Devery\'s a raw talent, and he\'s got a lot of good football ahead of him,\" McCarthy said. \"We\'re going to have to make him fit. He has a lot of the similar qualities that you have in DontÃƒÂƒÃ‚Â©, so in a sense we have similar guys. Then we have Joe Horn as our flanker. We\'re going to have to make a decision on what direction we have to go to get all three of those guys on the field at the same time. It\'s something we could do tomorrow if we had to.

\"The problem is Devery\'s a split end and he\'s behind DontÃƒÂƒÃ‚Â© and Jerome. If Devery were a flanker, there would be more opportunities for him to play.

...

\"There are two trains of thought,\" Haslett said. \"If you say I\'m going to play some young guys and see how they do, that says to the players that the coaches don\'t care and they\'re worried about next year.

\"I\'m not going to give that illusion, because I don\'t believe that. I think you try to win as many games as you can, because you only get 16 games. If you want to look at guys, that\'s what you have preseason for and next year for. I\'m going to worry about this year.\"

http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index...6194354530.xml

TheJudge · 12-20-2004, 02:05 PM

ill see if ther is one...

http://nola.live.advance.net/saints/...6194354530.xml

he held out, that is what bother haslett.....i know i heard somewhere that he was pissed off about it....

[Edited on 20/12/2004 by TheJudge]

Danno · 12-20-2004, 02:33 PM

In defense of the Henderson pick an aging Horn was hobbled quite a bit last year and Donte\'s health was a major major concern. We suffered quite a few injuries at WR and I think they showed their desperation. It also typically takes a couple of years to develop a WR so maybe Henderson was 2005 Horn/Stallworth insurance. Of course, for a player to develop he\'d actually have to play, IMHO.

Puddinhead · 12-21-2004, 09:50 AM

We spent a 2nd round pick (passed on ILB/OLB Donterrious Thomas) to pick a player that was completely and totally unneccessary.

Now who\'s the dumb one?

Beyond Don Thomas, we passed on further needs such as:

Michael Boulware - now starting at safety for Seattle
Madieu Williams - starting at safety for Cincinnati
Sean Jones - (was) starting at safety for Cleveland, I think he\'s hurt
Keiwan Ratliff - nickel back for Cincy (3rd on depth chart at CB behind Tory James and Deltha O\'Neal ... not bad company)
Shawntae Spencer - starting at CB for San Francisco

And if we just HAD to have a WR...

Darius Watts - Denver\'s #3 WR
Keary Colbert - stepped in nicely for Steve Smith this year in Carolina

These are players taken after Devery Henderson in just the 2nd round. We\'re not even activating a guy who was taken before promising starters for other teams. Devery showed a little ability in the preseason, when competing against flunkies of his calibre, but even then he didn\'t seem able to run any route except the ol\' sandlot, \"just run straight out and I\'ll throw it to you.\" So much for Saban\'s knack for developing talent.

At least we got Courtney Watson that round...

Well....this list of names would have been a little more impressive if you\'d posted it BEFORE the draft, rather than with two games left in the season....

12-20-2004, 06:02 AM	#11
mutineer10 Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,739	is henderson that bad We spent a 2nd round pick (passed on ILB/OLB Donterrious Thomas) to pick a player that was completely and totally unneccessary. Now who\'s the dumb one? Beyond Don Thomas, we passed on further needs such as: Michael Boulware - now starting at safety for Seattle Madieu Williams - starting at safety for Cincinnati Sean Jones - (was) starting at safety for Cleveland, I think he\'s hurt Keiwan Ratliff - nickel back for Cincy (3rd on depth chart at CB behind Tory James and Deltha O\'Neal ... not bad company) Shawntae Spencer - starting at CB for San Francisco And if we just HAD to have a WR... Darius Watts - Denver\'s #3 WR Keary Colbert - stepped in nicely for Steve Smith this year in Carolina These are players taken after Devery Henderson in just the 2nd round. We\'re not even activating a guy who was taken before promising starters for other teams. Devery showed a little ability in the preseason, when competing against flunkies of his calibre, but even then he didn\'t seem able to run any route except the ol\' sandlot, \"just run straight out and I\'ll throw it to you.\" So much for Saban\'s knack for developing talent. At least we got Courtney Watson that round...

12-20-2004, 12:55 PM	#12
bayouboy1 Rookie Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 18	is henderson that bad I mean how dumb can you be.......picture this......Brooks in huddle......\" Henderson..........Henderson......\"huh?\"....go deep.....got it.......go deep......Duh....Yea I got it......GO DEEP.........!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( He will be our secret weapon in the game agains Panthers) KEEP THE FAITH.........GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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12-20-2004, 01:27 PM	#13
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	is henderson that bad Are you suggesting Haslett plays favorites? There are people on this board that would take offense to that, you know. Yeah, because if Haz really said Henderson pizzed him off and is refusing to play him because of it then I\'d like to see a link to the article that quotes him saying it. McCarthy said he would feel comfortable playing Henderson in certain situations. But he said other receivers give the Saints a better chance to win. \"Devery\'s a raw talent, and he\'s got a lot of good football ahead of him,\" McCarthy said. \"We\'re going to have to make him fit. He has a lot of the similar qualities that you have in DontÃƒÂƒÃ‚Â©, so in a sense we have similar guys. Then we have Joe Horn as our flanker. We\'re going to have to make a decision on what direction we have to go to get all three of those guys on the field at the same time. It\'s something we could do tomorrow if we had to. \"The problem is Devery\'s a split end and he\'s behind DontÃƒÂƒÃ‚Â© and Jerome. If Devery were a flanker, there would be more opportunities for him to play. ... \"There are two trains of thought,\" Haslett said. \"If you say I\'m going to play some young guys and see how they do, that says to the players that the coaches don\'t care and they\'re worried about next year. \"I\'m not going to give that illusion, because I don\'t believe that. I think you try to win as many games as you can, because you only get 16 games. If you want to look at guys, that\'s what you have preseason for and next year for. I\'m going to worry about this year.\" http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index...6194354530.xml

12-20-2004, 02:05 PM	#14
TheJudge 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 100	is henderson that bad ill see if ther is one... http://nola.live.advance.net/saints/...6194354530.xml he held out, that is what bother haslett.....i know i heard somewhere that he was pissed off about it.... [Edited on 20/12/2004 by TheJudge]
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12-20-2004, 02:33 PM	#15
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	is henderson that bad In defense of the Henderson pick an aging Horn was hobbled quite a bit last year and Donte\'s health was a major major concern. We suffered quite a few injuries at WR and I think they showed their desperation. It also typically takes a couple of years to develop a WR so maybe Henderson was 2005 Horn/Stallworth insurance. Of course, for a player to develop he\'d actually have to play, IMHO.

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12-21-2004, 09:50 AM	#16
Puddinhead 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 102	is henderson that bad We spent a 2nd round pick (passed on ILB/OLB Donterrious Thomas) to pick a player that was completely and totally unneccessary. Now who\'s the dumb one? Beyond Don Thomas, we passed on further needs such as: Michael Boulware - now starting at safety for Seattle Madieu Williams - starting at safety for Cincinnati Sean Jones - (was) starting at safety for Cleveland, I think he\'s hurt Keiwan Ratliff - nickel back for Cincy (3rd on depth chart at CB behind Tory James and Deltha O\'Neal ... not bad company) Shawntae Spencer - starting at CB for San Francisco And if we just HAD to have a WR... Darius Watts - Denver\'s #3 WR Keary Colbert - stepped in nicely for Steve Smith this year in Carolina These are players taken after Devery Henderson in just the 2nd round. We\'re not even activating a guy who was taken before promising starters for other teams. Devery showed a little ability in the preseason, when competing against flunkies of his calibre, but even then he didn\'t seem able to run any route except the ol\' sandlot, \"just run straight out and I\'ll throw it to you.\" So much for Saban\'s knack for developing talent. At least we got Courtney Watson that round... Well....this list of names would have been a little more impressive if you\'d posted it BEFORE the draft, rather than with two games left in the season....
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