Bounty Gate vs Ray Rice situation
 

Two years ago, Roger Goodell told the Saints that ignorance was not a suitable defense in the Bountygate scandal. In the wake of the second Ray Rice video, the NFL commissioner is using that same defense. His credibility is slipping away.

Roger Goodell won't be fired, but credibility has come into question | The MMQB with Peter King

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fire his lying as.s.

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Goodell’s tough-guy stance was, If you didn’t know exactly what was going on in your program, that’s no excuse. You should have known. Case closed. Punishment dispensed.

Right back at you, Roger. The reality is: You should have known what was on that second tape. You should never have ruled on the Rice case to begin with until you did. You should have not rested until you found out exactly what happened in that elevator. In the case of Rice, where was that same motivation and dogged determination to get to the bottom of things that Goodell displayed during the Saints investigation?

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As much as id love him to get fired no way will the owners fire him. Record profits,team friendly CBA.

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A 'story' could get leaked claiming that Goodell has evidence that Obama is gay and he could join Obama's 'dead pool'.

OBAMA

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Killers get a slap on the wrist by the commissioner. Not cool bro. :brood:

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I don't think anyone takes him seriously anymore.

He's like that boss that everybody laughs at behind his back but you have to put up with him because he's still the boss.

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If the Owners, the one's who pay his check don't fire him, does that make them all accessories after the fact?

Ray Lewis, Ray Rice and Donte Hamstring! All former Ravens!

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Yeah. Everybody with a brain knows Goodell is unethical, arbitrary, dishonest, and bad for the sport -- even long before Harvey Levin got a hold of him, any John Q. Public person who follows sports news stories with any regularity, could see it happening with Goodell, time and again. Total bumbling and lack of integrity.

But we have to remember this guy is entrenched with the owners, he is bringing in billions of dollars, record profits, he is their Golden Boy. And although his pants are in flames and his nose is three feet long, I don't really see anything here that could make him step down. Until this affects the BRAND, and the bottom line, and the sponsors, and the profits, the owners will ride it out and do nothing.

I'd love to be wrong, but I don't see anything serious happening to Goodell here, unless the owners thought they had a *better* candidate to step in and run the league, lined up & waiting in the wings. Which since they just gave him an extension, I don't know if they've ever even considered it, who would be next, or even interim if he stepped down. It is pretty exhausting and time consuming to have to search for a Commish.

Integrity or honesty has nothing to do with it. If they had a better candidate lined up waiting in the wings, who they thought could do a better job of managing their league's profits, then I bet you Goodell would be gone at the first hiccup of a minor scandal, and that new person would be put in charge.

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I hope Tom or one of the Bensons, starts asking questions publicly. Things like..."after investigating bounties in the Saints organization, you claimed you had thousands of pages of evidence, you produced only 18 and a Federal Judge mocked your investigation. Now we find out your investigative skills are so poor that you didn't even think to look at the elevator tape before passing judgement and sentencing Ray Rice for what he did on the elevator"

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roger gotta geaux.

fire him, unless of course you endorse the enabler of women beaters.

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Not sure if they will actually fire him, probably not. Although it's great Karma if they do, it will not erase bountygate no matter what happens to that jackleg.

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He may not get outright fired over this, but his credibility is shot and the writing is now on the wall. This will prove to be the beginning of the end for roger.

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People that do what they are told do not get fired.

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delayed email responses vs out right cover up

hmmm

hang him

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RG = POS.

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I'm not convinced the owners are in solidarity on letting him ride it out. If he's not gone Sunday evening though we may be stuck with him.

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The judicial syatem blew it. The Ravens and the NFL followed suit and tapped him on the wrist much lighter than he hit wife in the face. All involved happily swept it under the rug. The public outcry over the video brought all involved's guilt to light. Now, everyone is so horrified at what happened. They're all a bunch of liars and cowards.

Now, Ray Rice should sue the NFL. By all accounts he told everyone what happened. I'm sure they're depositions and transcripts to back that up. He was punished by the law. The NFL punished him. Now and only now due to public outrage, the NFL and the Ravens have not just raised the penalties, they've essentially taken away his livelihood and ended his career.