CB - Chris Houston

dizzle88 · 09-11-2014, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Right after oline

I wouldn't say O line is an immediate need anymore, no sacks allowed all preseason and they performed pretty well last week, drew had plenty of time in the pocket, not to mention all our RB's had success

lynwood · 09-11-2014, 06:35 PM

Countdown to Draft Day is On!

jnormand · 09-11-2014, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by lynwood

Countdown to Draft Day is On!

Cmon Lynny! You, me and the rest of us know we aren't gonna find a great corner with the 32nd pick of the first round!

saintsfan1976 · 09-11-2014, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Right after oline

WAY before O line

Danno · 09-11-2014, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Cornerback is most likely going to be addressed in the draft, it is a position of need, unless we can get someone like Joe Haden in free agency

Cornerback and Linebacker are now our two biggest needs to address

So have we given up on Jean Baptiste, Fortt and Powell already?

dizzle88 · 09-11-2014, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

So have we given up on Jean Baptiste, Fortt and Powell already?

Not at all, but it's best to think ahead just incase those guys don't pan out the way the coaches expected

Those guys might come in and hit the ground running, but it wouldn't be the first time some defensive players with some hype failed to make the team/an impact

Chip Vaughn and Stanley Arnoux immediatedly come to mind from that terrific Wake Forest defense

Danno · 09-11-2014, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Not at all, but it's best to think ahead just incase those guys don't pan out the way the coaches expected

Agreed, and I'd probably rank current needs similarly...
OLB (2)-Gotta get a stud at SAM and WILL
ILB (2)-Lofton and Hawthorne are now merely servicable
CB-in case SJB is a bust
OC-In case Lelito doesn't develop
WR-Colston's gotta run out of gas sooner or later
OG-Age is catching up to our pro-bowlers

Jack Vegas · 09-11-2014, 08:58 PM

Washed up, no thanks

Utah_Saint · 09-11-2014, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I wouldn't say O line is an immediate need anymore, no sacks allowed all preseason and they performed pretty well last week, drew had plenty of time in the pocket, not to mention all our RB's had success

I disagree and here's my reasoning...

The CB and Linebackers may not be the best but they got us into the playoffs last season. And we have depth at both positions. There have been several people on here that have suggested Humber should start ahead of Hawthorne. Corey White ended up starting after being 4th on the depth chart. These same personnel made up the 2nd best pass defense and the 4th best defense overall in both yardage and scoring. They may not be top 5 again this season but they should be close. And they're young enough, they'll be back next season.

On the other hand...

We have NO depth at any offensive line position. In the preseason Bryce Harris was bad and Senio Kelemete was terrible. If one of the Big Uglies goes down for any length of time, the Saints are hosed for the season. Only one of the 5 starters is under 30. Even if they do make it through this season, how many more seasons will they last? The Saints will have to replace 4 over the next few years and they're going to be pretty cash strapped to try to build almost an entire line through free agency.

Just my 2¢.

Danno · 09-11-2014, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

I disagree and here's my reasoning...

The CB and Linebackers may not be the best but they got us into the playoffs last season. And we have depth at both positions. There have been several people on here that have suggested Humber should start ahead of Hawthorne. Corey White ended up starting after being 4th on the depth chart. These same personnel made up the 2nd best pass defense and the 4th best defense overall in both yardage and scoring. They may not be top 5 again this season but they should be close. And they're young enough, they'll be back next season.

On the other hand...

We have NO depth at any offensive line position. In the preseason Bryce Harris was bad and Senio Kelemete was terrible. If one of the Big Uglies goes down for any length of time, the Saints are hosed for the season. Only one of the 5 starters is under 30. Even if they do make it through this season, how many more seasons will they last? The Saints will have to replace 4 over the next few years and they're going to be pretty cash strapped to try to build almost an entire line through free agency.

Just my 2¢.

I can buy that. Its not an immediate need but it is a need at the most important position group on the team

09-11-2014, 06:26 PM	#11
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: CB - Chris Houston Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Right after oline I wouldn't say O line is an immediate need anymore, no sacks allowed all preseason and they performed pretty well last week, drew had plenty of time in the pocket, not to mention all our RB's had success

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lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	Re: CB - Chris Houston Countdown to Draft Day is On!

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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,661	Re: CB - Chris Houston Originally Posted by lynwood Countdown to Draft Day is On! Cmon Lynny! You, me and the rest of us know we aren't gonna find a great corner with the 32nd pick of the first round!

09-11-2014, 07:14 PM	#14
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: CB - Chris Houston Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Right after oline WAY before O line

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: CB - Chris Houston Originally Posted by dizzle88 Cornerback is most likely going to be addressed in the draft, it is a position of need, unless we can get someone like Joe Haden in free agency Cornerback and Linebacker are now our two biggest needs to address So have we given up on Jean Baptiste, Fortt and Powell already?

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09-11-2014, 08:46 PM	#16
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: CB - Chris Houston Originally Posted by Danno So have we given up on Jean Baptiste, Fortt and Powell already? Not at all, but it's best to think ahead just incase those guys don't pan out the way the coaches expected Those guys might come in and hit the ground running, but it wouldn't be the first time some defensive players with some hype failed to make the team/an impact Chip Vaughn and Stanley Arnoux immediatedly come to mind from that terrific Wake Forest defense

09-11-2014, 08:53 PM	#17
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: CB - Chris Houston Originally Posted by dizzle88 Not at all, but it's best to think ahead just incase those guys don't pan out the way the coaches expected Agreed, and I'd probably rank current needs similarly... OLB (2)-Gotta get a stud at SAM and WILL ILB (2)-Lofton and Hawthorne are now merely servicable CB-in case SJB is a bust OC-In case Lelito doesn't develop WR-Colston's gotta run out of gas sooner or later OG-Age is catching up to our pro-bowlers dizzle88 likes this.

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09-11-2014, 09:01 PM	#19
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: CB - Chris Houston Originally Posted by dizzle88 I wouldn't say O line is an immediate need anymore, no sacks allowed all preseason and they performed pretty well last week, drew had plenty of time in the pocket, not to mention all our RB's had success I disagree and here's my reasoning... The CB and Linebackers may not be the best but they got us into the playoffs last season. And we have depth at both positions. There have been several people on here that have suggested Humber should start ahead of Hawthorne. Corey White ended up starting after being 4th on the depth chart. These same personnel made up the 2nd best pass defense and the 4th best defense overall in both yardage and scoring. They may not be top 5 again this season but they should be close. And they're young enough, they'll be back next season. On the other hand... We have NO depth at any offensive line position. In the preseason Bryce Harris was bad and Senio Kelemete was terrible. If one of the Big Uglies goes down for any length of time, the Saints are hosed for the season. Only one of the 5 starters is under 30. Even if they do make it through this season, how many more seasons will they last? The Saints will have to replace 4 over the next few years and they're going to be pretty cash strapped to try to build almost an entire line through free agency. Just my 2¢.

09-11-2014, 09:33 PM	#20
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: CB - Chris Houston Originally Posted by Utah_Saint I disagree and here's my reasoning... The CB and Linebackers may not be the best but they got us into the playoffs last season. And we have depth at both positions. There have been several people on here that have suggested Humber should start ahead of Hawthorne. Corey White ended up starting after being 4th on the depth chart. These same personnel made up the 2nd best pass defense and the 4th best defense overall in both yardage and scoring. They may not be top 5 again this season but they should be close. And they're young enough, they'll be back next season. On the other hand... We have NO depth at any offensive line position. In the preseason Bryce Harris was bad and Senio Kelemete was terrible. If one of the Big Uglies goes down for any length of time, the Saints are hosed for the season. Only one of the 5 starters is under 30. Even if they do make it through this season, how many more seasons will they last? The Saints will have to replace 4 over the next few years and they're going to be pretty cash strapped to try to build almost an entire line through free agency. Just my 2¢. I can buy that. Its not an immediate need but it is a need at the most important position group on the team

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