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Danno 09-14-2014 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintGup (Post 610915)
What on earth possessed Payton to go for a pass play? Surely if we ran the ball we would have still been in field goal range, the clock would have run down more and they would have needed a touchdown to win. I am sorry to say this but Payton, you're an idiot.

Agreed, I was worried about a sack taking us out of FG range and wham! Brees takes a sack.

We run it for just a few yards and we kick a very makeable FG for the win.

onebyone 09-14-2014 05:13 PM

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It is not all on Payton, but he sure as hell isn't blameless in this mess.

SaintsBro 09-14-2014 06:06 PM

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It's Payton to blame because look at the team's road record over the last 13 games. The last 5 in particular. Look at his and Brees' road playoff record overall since 2006. To get to the Super Bowl, the Saints have to get home field. To get to the playoffs and get home field, you have to win games on the road during the season. But he can't win on the road. Catch-22. Recipe for being perpetually outside looking in. We've known this since Chicago 2006. Even with the best offense in history, Payton couldn't win on the road in the playoffs.

TheOak 09-14-2014 06:12 PM

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It would seem that some fans are not sure of what exactly they believe.

I see it as somewhat of a conflict to say on one breath that we should be less predictable then on the following breath exclaim shock that Sean Payton didn't do the normal for down and distance.

Cant have it both ways....

Ashley 09-14-2014 06:19 PM

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All is to blame.

NOLA54 09-14-2014 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintGup (Post 610915)
What on earth possessed Payton to go for a pass play? Surely if we ran the ball we would have still been in field goal range, the clock would have run down more and they would have needed a touchdown to win. I am sorry to say this but Payton, you're an idiot.

I know, Right? however the browns probably would have made that touchdown to win anyway.

TheOak 09-14-2014 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 611131)
It's Payton to blame because look at the team's road record over the last 13 games. The last 5 in particular. Look at his and Brees' road playoff record overall since 2006. To get to the Super Bowl, the Saints have to get home field. To get to the playoffs and get home field, you have to win games on the road during the season. But he can't win on the road. Catch-22. Recipe for being perpetually outside looking in. We've known this since Chicago 2006. Even with the best offense in history, Payton couldn't win on the road in the playoffs.

2009 Super Bowl - On the road, playoff win
2013 Wild card - On the road, playoff win

We can and do win away from the dome in the playoffs.
Saints road W/L is 32/26 going off PTs record adding the wins and losses from 2006.

We have won more road games than we have lost with Sean Payton as a head coach.


Here: From Dec 13 last season.
"The Saints have consistently denied that distinction, citing their 24-14 road record since 2009, the best in the NFL in that span, as proof. "
New Orleans Saints' road woes continue in stunning 27-16 loss to St. Louis Rams | NOLA.com

NOLA54 09-14-2014 06:35 PM

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Folks, you can say whatever you want. Everyone is upset and rightfully so. We have officially become irrelevant and it seems the window is closing on this team. We are not going to play in another Super Bowl in the near future. The team & the coaches have become complacent. Teams are on to us because we have nothing new or fresh to show. The defense can't find their ass. Maybe this is what you get from Rob Ryan in his second year. Loosing games this close means you can't close a game.

halloween 65 09-14-2014 06:43 PM

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With Ingram averaging 8+ yrds. a carry, 11 touches is not nearly enough. I would have liked to seen 20+ carries out of him today. Say whatever but the passing game sometimes against a stingy D just don't wear a D down enough to open the pass up. If the run is working run, if the pass is working pass. Brees throwing 40 passes completing 28 thats 12 missed passes, I wonder what Ingram and PT would do with those touches and burning up the clock. Ryan better get his stuff togather soon!!

WhoDat!656 09-14-2014 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 611145)
2009 Super Bowl - On the road, playoff win
2013 Wild card - On the road, playoff win

We can and do win away from the dome in the playoffs.
Saints road W/L is 32/26 going off PTs record adding the wins and losses from 2006.

We have won more road games than we have lost with Sean Payton as a head coach.


Here: From Dec 13 last season.
"The Saints have consistently denied that distinction, citing their 24-14 road record since 2009, the best in the NFL in that span, as proof. "
New Orleans Saints' road woes continue in stunning 27-16 loss to St. Louis Rams | NOLA.com

FWIW, the Super Bowl is not considered a road win since the Saints were the Home team.

NonieT 09-14-2014 06:54 PM

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Remember in 2009 we played Buffalo in Buffalo? Remember what happened in the game? We could not pass the ball for anything. They were either incomplete or didn't go very far. Since Payton couldn't pass the ball he started to run. Same thing happened in that game that happen in this one. The line had a hard time protecting Brees. We run the ball down their throats. By the 4th quarter they were so gassed the could stop anything and they stop rushing Brees. Pierre Thomas got over 100yard in the 2nd half. Payton should have remembered that game. He should have done the same thing to Browns that he did to the Bills.

W. Kovacs 09-14-2014 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NonieT (Post 611168)
Remember in 2009 we played Buffalo in Buffalo? Remember what happened in the game? We could not pass the ball for anything. They were either incomplete or didn't go very far. Since Payton couldn't pass the ball he started to run. Same thing happened in that game that happen in this one. The line had a hard time protecting Brees. We run the ball down their throats. By the 4th quarter they were so gassed the could stop anything and they stop rushing Brees. Pierre Thomas got over 100yard in the 2nd half. Payton should have remembered that game. He should have done the same thing to Browns that he did to the Bills.

It seems as though our coaches are incapable of learning from the past. The things that have cost us games over the past two years continue to cost us games now.

And this includes our GM. The most glaring holes on the team (OL, LB, DB) have not been addressed in either of the past two off-seasons.

Danno 09-14-2014 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by W. Kovacs (Post 611173)

And this includes our GM. The most glaring holes on the team (OL, LB, DB) have not been addressed in either of the past two off-seasons.

We drafted Vaccaro in the 1st, Baptiste in the 2nd,, Armstead in the 3rd, signed two of the top free agent DBs in the NFL in Byrd and Lewis. LB I can buy, but oline and DB were addressed

AllSaints 09-14-2014 07:29 PM

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Lets face it ppl Brees cant carry this team by just passing anymore we have to keep running the ball ... Maybe PAyton will pick up on that.... Run the balllllllll

Euphoria 09-14-2014 07:37 PM

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I don't know what game yall were watching but our Defense SUCKS!

Danno 09-14-2014 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 611185)
I don't know what game yall were watching but our Defense SUCKS!

Not sure what team you follow, but Sean Payton is the head coach

frankeefrank 09-14-2014 08:04 PM

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Lots of blame to go around...
But we've got to stick together, we've come too far.
:)


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