Payton, it was on you.

hagan714 · 09-14-2014, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay

Agree with spkb. Why in the world would we not go for a first down? No problem at all throwing it there. Fact is our defense allowed the browns to go 85 yards at the end of the game. SP wasn't on the field with this pathetic defense.

i did not see any scheme changes on defense from last week. 5 - 10 - 15 yard cushions? ok we have no faith in the secondary at all. we are chicken

granted the way we were running the ball has to make one wonder. but PT did miss that pick up. in his defense the center and the guard did a double team up front which was a bit of a surprise. so some one was on the wrong page and it appears to be pT.

spkb25 · 09-14-2014, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

i did not see any scheme changes on defense from last week. 5 - 10 - 15 yard cushions? ok we have no faith in the secondary at all. we are chicken

This is true, and I will tell you it feels like what we had before. no pass rush and corners we are scared will get torched

TheOak · 09-14-2014, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by Saintaintso

We need to just treat Brees like Mark gd Sanchez

Originally Posted by Saintaintso

Idiotic logic

Saintaintso · 09-14-2014, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Apparently he is having throwin issues ... Two picks in two games back to back at probably cost us both games.

W. Kovacs · 09-14-2014, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by Saintaintso

Apparently he is having throwin issues ... Two picks in two games back to back at probably cost us both games.

Mental.

What cost us both games was 1) Settling for field goals on the road. 2) Abandoning the run.

Every QB in the league would have "throwing issues," if the defense doesn't have to respect the run and can drop everyone into coverage.

I'm not going to try to say that Drew is the Drew of 3-4 years ago but saying he has 'throwing issues' is completely unfair.

AllSaints · 09-14-2014, 03:30 PM

Yeah Im blaming the Defense ... We make Hoyer look like Brady and he picks us apart.... Something has to change.... What happened to the Pass Rush ????

CharityMike · 09-14-2014, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by AllSaints

Yeah Im blaming the Defense ... We make Hoyer look like Brady and he picks us apart.... Something has to change.... What happened to the Pass Rush ????

It got paid

Saintaintso · 09-14-2014, 03:30 PM

Bad things happen when we throw the ball. We need to just treat Brees like Mark gd Sanchez and only allow him to throw on third and long

saintsfan403 · 09-14-2014, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by Saintaintso

Bad things happen when we throw the ball. We need to just treat Brees like Mark gd Sanchez and only allow him to throw on third and long

Agree with the first sentence of the post, disagree with the second. We need to go with what's working and not try and pull some trickery out of SP's fun bag. We're running the Browns over, but letting the pressure get to Drew. For f***sakes! Run the ball! SP needs to take a page out of Bellichek's book and play power football. We never try to control the tempo with the run when we have one of the best backfields in football. NYJ all over again!

NonieT · 09-14-2014, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan403

Agree with the first sentence of the post, disagree with the second. We need to go with what's working and not try and pull some trickery out of SP's fun bag. We're running the Browns over, but letting the pressure get to Drew. For f***sakes! Run the ball! SP needs to take a page out of Bellichek's book and play power football. We never try to control the tempo with the run when we have one of the best backfields in football. NYJ all over again!

I agree. Why didn't he keep running the ball? It was working. Instead he tries to get creative. Outsmarted himself again.

09-14-2014, 03:29 PM	#1
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Payton, it was on you. Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay Agree with spkb. Why in the world would we not go for a first down? No problem at all throwing it there. Fact is our defense allowed the browns to go 85 yards at the end of the game. SP wasn't on the field with this pathetic defense. i did not see any scheme changes on defense from last week. 5 - 10 - 15 yard cushions? ok we have no faith in the secondary at all. we are chicken granted the way we were running the ball has to make one wonder. but PT did miss that pick up. in his defense the center and the guard did a double team up front which was a bit of a surprise. so some one was on the wrong page and it appears to be pT.
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09-14-2014, 03:31 PM	#2
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,123	Re: Payton, it was on you. Originally Posted by hagan714 i did not see any scheme changes on defense from last week. 5 - 10 - 15 yard cushions? ok we have no faith in the secondary at all. we are chicken This is true, and I will tell you it feels like what we had before. no pass rush and corners we are scared will get torched

09-14-2014, 03:45 PM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: Payton, it was on you. Originally Posted by Saintaintso We need to just treat Brees like Mark gd Sanchez Originally Posted by Saintaintso Idiotic logic papz, saintsfan403 and brees84 like this.

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Saintaintso 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 937	Re: Payton, it was on you. Originally Posted by TheOak Apparently he is having throwin issues ... Two picks in two games back to back at probably cost us both games.
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W. Kovacs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 514	Re: Payton, it was on you. Originally Posted by Saintaintso Apparently he is having throwin issues ... Two picks in two games back to back at probably cost us both games. Mental. What cost us both games was 1) Settling for field goals on the road. 2) Abandoning the run. Every QB in the league would have "throwing issues," if the defense doesn't have to respect the run and can drop everyone into coverage. I'm not going to try to say that Drew is the Drew of 3-4 years ago but saying he has 'throwing issues' is completely unfair. saintsfan403 likes this.

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saintsfan403 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: WHO DAT NATION Posts: 2,261	Re: Payton, it was on you. Originally Posted by Saintaintso Bad things happen when we throw the ball. We need to just treat Brees like Mark gd Sanchez and only allow him to throw on third and long Agree with the first sentence of the post, disagree with the second. We need to go with what's working and not try and pull some trickery out of SP's fun bag. We're running the Browns over, but letting the pressure get to Drew. For f***sakes! Run the ball! SP needs to take a page out of Bellichek's book and play power football. We never try to control the tempo with the run when we have one of the best backfields in football. NYJ all over again! Saintaintso likes this.

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NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Payton, it was on you. Originally Posted by saintsfan403 Agree with the first sentence of the post, disagree with the second. We need to go with what's working and not try and pull some trickery out of SP's fun bag. We're running the Browns over, but letting the pressure get to Drew. For f***sakes! Run the ball! SP needs to take a page out of Bellichek's book and play power football. We never try to control the tempo with the run when we have one of the best backfields in football. NYJ all over again! I agree. Why didn't he keep running the ball? It was working. Instead he tries to get creative. Outsmarted himself again.
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