It is THAT bad

W. Kovacs · 09-14-2014, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Does anyone really believe this team will win any of the upcoming games

Because I certainly don't

We win next week at home. No way we keep up with Dallas in Dallas, though. Our defense seems to be worse than theirs, which seemed impossible a mere two weeks ago.

Once we go 1-3 with Carolina and Seattle going 4-0...ouch.

Foot Stomper · 09-14-2014, 04:11 PM

I am hopeful they right the ship and make some success of the season. This reminds me of the 2007 season. After we made it to the 2006 Title game the team came out flat in 2007. It seems they read the reports of how good they are, have a cushy camp at the Greenbrier and then get whooped on the field. We are a soft team right now. This slide started in the 2nd half of last year when we threw away the Division lead. When will it stop is anyones guess but it sure seems this season is over before it ever got started. 0-2 is a big hole in the NFC. A big one. I am not going to let it ruin my day though. If a team of professionals can't put on a better display of football than this it wont do any good for me to worry about it.

saintsfan403 · 09-14-2014, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by arsaint

Even if this team does pull its collective head out of its rear it is too late. We are already 2 behind in our division and the NFC.

Yes there are 14 games left. Yes we can still win and maybe get a wildcard if things roll our way, but we've screwed the pooch on this season being special digging an 0-2 hole against cream puffs.

Well, lets see. We had 2 games on the road last year that we blew a last second lead in (Carolina and New England), throw in the NYJ game because that was one we should have won as well, and we still came out fine last year. No win is given when we are playing outside of the Dome. We've played 2 hard road games and we've basically lost both of them on a last second field goal. We have plenty of time to turn this thing around, so I'm not investing in a paper bag yet. :whodat:

W. Kovacs · 09-14-2014, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan403

Well, lets see. We had 2 games on the road last year that we blew a last second lead in (Carolina and New England), throw in the NYJ game because that was one we should have won as well, and we still came out fine last year. No win is given when we are playing outside of the Dome. We've played 2 hard road games and we've basically lost both of them on a last second field goal. We have plenty of time to turn this thing around, so I'm not investing in a paper bag yet. :whodat:

I don't think losing in the second round of the playoffs is "fine." I mean, I guess it's better than the 4-12 days but we've got a window of a year or two to win a SB before we enter full-on rebuilding mode. Without homefield in the playoffs, that becomes nearly impossible, especially if we play Seattle.

saintsfan403 · 09-14-2014, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by W. Kovacs

I don't think losing in the second round of the playoffs is "fine." I mean, I guess it's better than the 4-12 days but we've got a window of a year or two to win a SB before we enter full-on rebuilding mode. Without homefield in the playoffs, that becomes nearly impossible, especially if we play Seattle.

You're downplaying how hard it is to win in this league, especially in the NFC.

W. Kovacs · 09-14-2014, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan403

You're downplaying how hard it is to win in this league, especially in the NFC.

I don't think I am; it's that very fact that makes me believe we need to win now. We have a top 5 QB, two very strong RBs and a world-class TE. Once that falls apart, it's going to be a few years (at least) before we're able to field such a team again.

To waste the opportunity is not fine, in my humble opinion.

WillSaints81 · 09-14-2014, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by W. Kovacs

We win next week at home. No way we keep up with Dallas in Dallas, though. Our defense seems to be worse than theirs, which seemed impossible a mere two weeks ago.

Once we go 1-3 with Carolina and Seattle going 4-0...ouch.

Carolina is going 4-0? I don't think so, they will lose one of the next two, maybe both. Steelers actually matchup well with teams like Carolina. Seattle is losing in SD so far.

Audiotom · 09-14-2014, 06:49 PM

The sky is not falling

We lost a close game because our defense isn't up to par and our offense abandoned the run and played poor clock management yet again

This is a long season but the Saints are the Saints
They will adjust and find a way to win

xan · 09-14-2014, 07:09 PM

We are who we are. Saying that we only lost because we screwed up against 2nd rate teams by being perfect imitations of ourselves is fundamentally delusional.

If we weren't the New Orleans Saints, who can't get its collective head out of its ass, then we would win the Super Bowl.

Yeah, How's that working for ya?

Barry from MS · 09-14-2014, 07:39 PM

You are what your record is. Close games on the road lost by last second field goals by less-talented teams means you play to your competition. It means we are 0-2.

That is not elite. Sorry, can't buy the whole "we've only lost by last second field goals on the road." BS. This is middle of the road, average. We just get flat-out beaten (@SEA on Monday Night last year) is more acceptable than letting mid-to-low tier teams beat you with last second field goals. The latter is unacceptable, and should be unacceptable for a team with this much talent on both sides of the ball. BS.

Unless there is are a drastic change in heart and desire to win and NOT play to the level of competition, see you at 8-8 or worse.

09-14-2014, 04:06 PM	#31
W. Kovacs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 514	Re: It is THAT bad Originally Posted by dizzle88 Does anyone really believe this team will win any of the upcoming games Because I certainly don't We win next week at home. No way we keep up with Dallas in Dallas, though. Our defense seems to be worse than theirs, which seemed impossible a mere two weeks ago. Once we go 1-3 with Carolina and Seattle going 4-0...ouch. onebyone likes this.

09-14-2014, 04:11 PM	#32
Foot Stomper Carolina Sucks Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 379	Re: It is THAT bad I am hopeful they right the ship and make some success of the season. This reminds me of the 2007 season. After we made it to the 2006 Title game the team came out flat in 2007. It seems they read the reports of how good they are, have a cushy camp at the Greenbrier and then get whooped on the field. We are a soft team right now. This slide started in the 2nd half of last year when we threw away the Division lead. When will it stop is anyones guess but it sure seems this season is over before it ever got started. 0-2 is a big hole in the NFC. A big one. I am not going to let it ruin my day though. If a team of professionals can't put on a better display of football than this it wont do any good for me to worry about it. arsaint likes this.

09-14-2014, 04:13 PM	#33
saintsfan403 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: WHO DAT NATION Posts: 2,261	Re: It is THAT bad Originally Posted by arsaint Even if this team does pull its collective head out of its rear it is too late. We are already 2 behind in our division and the NFC. Yes there are 14 games left. Yes we can still win and maybe get a wildcard if things roll our way, but we've screwed the pooch on this season being special digging an 0-2 hole against cream puffs. Well, lets see. We had 2 games on the road last year that we blew a last second lead in (Carolina and New England), throw in the NYJ game because that was one we should have won as well, and we still came out fine last year. No win is given when we are playing outside of the Dome. We've played 2 hard road games and we've basically lost both of them on a last second field goal. We have plenty of time to turn this thing around, so I'm not investing in a paper bag yet. :whodat: Utah_Saint likes this.

09-14-2014, 04:18 PM	#34
W. Kovacs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 514	Re: It is THAT bad Originally Posted by saintsfan403 Well, lets see. We had 2 games on the road last year that we blew a last second lead in (Carolina and New England), throw in the NYJ game because that was one we should have won as well, and we still came out fine last year. No win is given when we are playing outside of the Dome. We've played 2 hard road games and we've basically lost both of them on a last second field goal. We have plenty of time to turn this thing around, so I'm not investing in a paper bag yet. :whodat: I don't think losing in the second round of the playoffs is "fine." I mean, I guess it's better than the 4-12 days but we've got a window of a year or two to win a SB before we enter full-on rebuilding mode. Without homefield in the playoffs, that becomes nearly impossible, especially if we play Seattle. arsaint likes this.

09-14-2014, 04:37 PM	#35
saintsfan403 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: WHO DAT NATION Posts: 2,261	Re: It is THAT bad Originally Posted by W. Kovacs I don't think losing in the second round of the playoffs is "fine." I mean, I guess it's better than the 4-12 days but we've got a window of a year or two to win a SB before we enter full-on rebuilding mode. Without homefield in the playoffs, that becomes nearly impossible, especially if we play Seattle. You're downplaying how hard it is to win in this league, especially in the NFC.

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09-14-2014, 04:51 PM	#36
W. Kovacs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 514	Re: It is THAT bad Originally Posted by saintsfan403 You're downplaying how hard it is to win in this league, especially in the NFC. I don't think I am; it's that very fact that makes me believe we need to win now. We have a top 5 QB, two very strong RBs and a world-class TE. Once that falls apart, it's going to be a few years (at least) before we're able to field such a team again. To waste the opportunity is not fine, in my humble opinion.

09-14-2014, 04:52 PM	#37
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: It is THAT bad Originally Posted by W. Kovacs We win next week at home. No way we keep up with Dallas in Dallas, though. Our defense seems to be worse than theirs, which seemed impossible a mere two weeks ago. Once we go 1-3 with Carolina and Seattle going 4-0...ouch. Carolina is going 4-0? I don't think so, they will lose one of the next two, maybe both. Steelers actually matchup well with teams like Carolina. Seattle is losing in SD so far.

09-14-2014, 06:49 PM	#38
Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: It is THAT bad The sky is not falling We lost a close game because our defense isn't up to par and our offense abandoned the run and played poor clock management yet again This is a long season but the Saints are the Saints They will adjust and find a way to win jeanpierre likes this.

09-14-2014, 07:09 PM	#39
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,368 Blog Entries: 34	Re: It is THAT bad We are who we are. Saying that we only lost because we screwed up against 2nd rate teams by being perfect imitations of ourselves is fundamentally delusional. If we weren't the New Orleans Saints, who can't get its collective head out of its ass, then we would win the Super Bowl. Yeah, How's that working for ya?

09-14-2014, 07:39 PM	#40
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: It is THAT bad You are what your record is. Close games on the road lost by last second field goals by less-talented teams means you play to your competition. It means we are 0-2. That is not elite. Sorry, can't buy the whole "we've only lost by last second field goals on the road." BS. This is middle of the road, average. We just get flat-out beaten (@SEA on Monday Night last year) is more acceptable than letting mid-to-low tier teams beat you with last second field goals. The latter is unacceptable, and should be unacceptable for a team with this much talent on both sides of the ball. BS. Unless there is are a drastic change in heart and desire to win and NOT play to the level of competition, see you at 8-8 or worse. jeanpierre and arsaint like this.
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