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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Barry from MS Record: 0-2. Turnovers: -3 (though 1 turnover was in desperation at the end of the game) @ ATL: Saint 1 (ONE)/Atlanta 2 (TWO) with one in overtime on our own side of the field ...

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Old 09-16-2014, 07:11 AM   #1
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Re: You Like Numbers?

Originally Posted by Barry from MS View Post
Record: 0-2. Turnovers: -3 (though 1 turnover was in desperation at the end of the game)

@ ATL: Saint 1 (ONE)/Atlanta 2 (TWO) with one in overtime on our own side of the field
@ CLE: Saints 0 (ZERO)/Cleveland 2 (TWO) with one a Pick 6 in a 26-24 game.

Lose the turnover battle on the road, you are asking to get beat. Wondering why we're 0-2 and getting beat by last second FGs? It is the inability to force turnovers and our tendency to turning the ball over on the road.

This is a pretty telling stat, and one cannot deny that these 2 things are why talented teams get beat by last second FGs on the road to inferior teams. The sole reason? Of course not, but it ain't gonna help matters none.

But can we really call them inferior teams at this time? Both are 1-1. We are 0-2.
2 games is too small of a sample size.
We are not scoring 17 points/game needing turnovers for more points. Turnovers has very little to do with allowing 32 points/game.
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Old 09-16-2014, 08:48 AM   #2
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If we win all home games and split the remaining road games, we still end up 11-5 and in the post-season. And outside of carolina (totally surprised and still undecided about them so far), I don't think any NFC team is going to do much better than that.
We are scoring more points per game than any team in the league and on the road at that. If the D tightens up, it's all good.
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New England Patriots +5 in turnovers
Pittsburgh Steelers -4 in turnovers

Both teams 1-1
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NE: 2 Road games...loss @ a good MIA team and were +1 and win @ a Peterson-less MIN team w/Cassell's 4 INTs.

PIT: 1 Home/1 Away...@ BAL with -3 in a blowout 26-6 loss and home vs CLE with -1 and a last minute FG to win.

Us?

@ ATL -- End Zone INT plus fumble at our own 35-ish yard line in Overtime. Lose by 3 w/FG in overtime. 6-10 point swing on 2 plays.

@ CLE -- Pick 6 in a 2 point loss and we forced ZERO turnovers.

I'll clarify then...inopportune turnovers are beating us on the road in close games. Those 3 aforementioned turnovers hold way more weight than a INT w/o a significant return around midfield in the 2nd quarter and we're up by 10-14 points against a team with a subpar defense. Make sense?

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Number of key players lost by our upcoming opponents -- 2. If our opponents keep losing their best players to character flaws and resulting prison terms -- this season could become a cake walk.

Mostly kidding -- but -- at this point all good news is relevant.
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I'll give you a good number

Since Terron Armstead took over at LT from Charles Brown in week 16 (6 games) the Saints have averaged 138ypg in rushing. That includes games against Panthers, Seahawks, Tampa and the eagles. All of whom had a top 15 run defense
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Bad numbers:
ATL 47 yards in 1:10 to tie
Clev 85 yards in 2:30 to kick winning FG

and for good measure, 58 yards in 16 seconds at the end of the first half vs ATl for a 'meaningless' FG
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The # I want to see Sunday.1 in the win column. Then we go from there.
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Originally Posted by lee909 View Post
I'll give you a good number

Since Terron Armstead took over at LT from Charles Brown in week 16 (6 games) the Saints have averaged 138ypg in rushing. That includes games against Panthers, Seahawks, Tampa and the eagles. All of whom had a top 15 run defense
Dad gum it...great call. Freakin' awesome post, bro.

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The # I want to see Sunday.1 in the win column. Then we go from there.
I do believe that is the only number that matters.

Mathematicians UNITE!
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