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WhoDat!656 09-15-2014 03:04 PM

The Worst Defensive Play in Saints History Is Just the Start
 
This should be required reading by the coaches and players.

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dizzle88 09-15-2014 03:22 PM

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Sounds like the team is imploding

Khiry and junior calling people "fake fans"

How do you expect people not to get frustrated when you give a half assed attempt on game day, give the fans something to cheer for rather than expecting them to cheer for you regardless

ikecomp 09-15-2014 03:24 PM

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good read. some very painful truths I hope our coaching staff is taking note on. I just hope at some point they trash this new nickel look they've been using. Go back to your 3 safety look and ball out. It's just not working.

Danno 09-15-2014 03:43 PM

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Tebuckey Jones didn't replace Sammy Knight at SS.

Jay Bellamy moved to SS and Tebuckey played FS.

hagan714 09-15-2014 03:48 PM

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fake fans? lmao

you can wrap a turd really pretty wrapper and put a super bowl ring on it but when you unwrap it it is still a turd.

do not go there. many fans have stood by this team longer than they have been alive and we will be here long after they are gone.

blame the fans for laying a turd on the field two games in a row. shame on them for thinking saints fans are that dumb.

trade em :) only kidding. but they do need a slapping :argue:after the way Jr played the last two games i am surprised he is saying anything

Euphoria 09-15-2014 03:53 PM

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Yeah it was a complete bust by 4 players.

Out of place, busted assignments. I can agree that this maybe the worse D play in our history.

Rugby Saint II 09-15-2014 03:59 PM

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It looks pretty ugly right now.

hagan714 09-15-2014 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 611552)
Yeah it was a complete bust by 4 players.

Out of place, busted assignments. I can agree that this maybe the worse D play in our history.


see i will not go this far. the defense is playing flat and soft.

get a fire in their bellies and put them in peoples faces and they will play better.

If Rob can adjust a few things and take risks with the secondary. he will have to be willing to give up a big play or two. i think that will help. On the plus side if we do give up a few big plays it puts the ball in Drews hands more.

But that is up to Rob. I am not his biggest fan as you all know but

Roll the dice. press coverage for a change and lets see what the football gods reaction will be.

Barry from MS 09-15-2014 03:59 PM

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Wow...that last play was amazingly horrid. Plain bad.

And to Junior: You were born in 1988. Some of us have been bleeding black & gold a decade or two before that. We will still bleed it after you leave. Be a freakin' leader, Defensive Captain, and lead that defense. And for goodness sake, do NOT s--t where you eat.

WhoDat!656 09-15-2014 03:59 PM

Re: The Worst Defensive Play in Saints History Is Just the Start
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 611552)
Yeah it was a complete bust by 4 players.

Out of place, busted assignments. I can agree that this maybe the worse D play in our history.

If not it certainly would make the list!

TheOak 09-15-2014 04:04 PM

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I'm sure Sean Payton will explain how to act like a professional to anyone that doesn't.

In regards to Robinson's comment, I don't condone but understand.

Obviously he isn't talking about most fans but I could surely see him 'keeping it real' with a few fans that comment on SR, NFL.com, ESPN, etc... No one has been talking smack about him, he busts his arse, but I'm sure he has close friends that are taking some heat. He just picked the wrong way to go about defending them.

TheOak 09-15-2014 04:08 PM

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Just what I thought!

hagan714 09-15-2014 04:16 PM

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some one got slapped lol

jnormand 09-15-2014 04:26 PM

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Here's my question....how did we do so well last year on defense and now lay an egg in the first 2 weeks this year? We even upgraded a couple spots. It makes no sense.

Why not stick with what we were doing last year? Why aren't we going back to what works? None of this makes sense to me.

dizzle88 09-15-2014 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 611572)
Here's my question....how did we do so well last year on defense and now lay an egg in the first 2 weeks this year? We even upgraded a couple spots. It makes no sense.

Why not stick with what we were doing last year? Why aren't we going back to what works? None of this makes sense to me.

That's really what I don't understand

We replaced 2 safeties that were ranked near the bottom, with a top 5 safety and Kenny vaccaro

Our pass rush personell stayed the same, the same unit which produced 43 sacks last year, now has 2

Utah_Saint 09-15-2014 04:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 611572)
Here's my question....how did we do so well last year on defense and now lay an egg in the first 2 weeks this year? We even upgraded a couple spots. It makes no sense.

Why not stick with what we were doing last year? Why aren't we going back to what works? None of this makes sense to me.

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 611574)
That's really what I don't understand

We replaced 2 safeties that were ranked near the bottom, with a top 5 safety and Kenny vaccaro

Our pass rush personell stayed the same, the same unit which produced 43 sacks last year, now has 2

I'll betcha Sean Payton asked Rob Ryan those exact same questions a dozen times on the plane ride home from Cleveland.

xan 09-15-2014 04:33 PM

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and out of a time-out, too. Coaching?

CharityMike 09-15-2014 04:46 PM

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I remember reading a cowgirl fans post, I wanna say it was on facebook, responding to an nil.com post about our D. He said RR is notorious for turning a D around and then over complicating it the following year. I didn't think much of the comment, figured just sour grapes but im beginning to wonder. We should have improved with the personnel adds but we are clearly not. Is it scheme? Makes sense.

Barry from MS 09-15-2014 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by xan (Post 611579)
and out of a time-out, too. Coaching?

I don't believe anyone can call a timeout except for the offense b/c Sean says so...(sarcasm)

NonieT 09-15-2014 08:50 PM

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Maybe Rob Ryan should employ the KISS(Keep It Simple, Stupid) principle.

Same goes for Sean Payton.

K Major 09-15-2014 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 611558)
Wow...that last play was amazingly horrid. Plain bad.

Yep, I saw the same thing you saw. I hate to beat a dead horse but P Rob was confused even before Hoyer hiked the ball. Out of position and apparently LOST.

Good grief.

Utah_Saint 09-15-2014 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 611658)
Yep, I saw the same thing you saw. I hate to beat a dead horse but P Rob was confused even before Hoyer hiked the ball. Out of position and apparently LOST.

Good grief.

Yeah, and he wasn't the only one. Corey White and Keenan Lewis on the same guy letting the second receiver run free.

Secondary unprepared and confused on an obvious pass play. Looks like really bad coaching.

frankeefrank 09-15-2014 10:02 PM

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I understand the rumors of making his defense complicated...
But guys are out of position in basic cover 3 shells.
Most of the long third down conversions we have been giving up, and the big plays to the ATL RB's came from underneath routes.
Our LBs just can't run with ANYONE. And by the time our CBs or S's get there, it's too late.
conversion.


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