Loomis was asked about potentially re-signing Champ Bailey

rezburna · 09-15-2014, 07:46 PM

I honestly don't think they beat Champ out. He had a bit of an injury bug, and they probably just wanted to go with the younger legs. I know for a fact Champ is better then Rob and White as we speak.

|Mitch| · 09-15-2014, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I know for a fact Champ is better then Rob and White as we speak.

How so? Champ apparently wasn't good enough or healthy enough to beat out either Rob or White...

blackangold · 09-15-2014, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

How so? Champ apparently wasn't good enough or healthy enough to beat out either Rob or White...

I think health was the only factor.

Robinson got picked on every preseason game while champ played great in the 2 games we saw.

Every corner on the roster looked better than Robinson during the preseason. I know people are going to say he looked good in practice but no one actually knows coaches aren't going to say he looked bad. Robinson is the scapegoat right now and getting rid of him wont solve everything but it will make our defense better.

WhoDatFan26 · 09-19-2014, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I think health was the only factor.

Robinson got picked on every preseason game while champ played great in the 2 games we saw.

Every corner on the roster looked better than Robinson during the preseason. I know people are going to say he looked good in practice but no one actually knows coaches aren't going to say he looked bad. Robinson is the scapegoat right now and getting rid of him wont solve everything but it will make our defense better.

This is something I have stated numerous times. Champ didn't get beat out, he just wasn't healthy enough to show he could play a full 16 games.

TheOak · 09-16-2014, 04:19 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I honestly don't think they beat Champ out. He had a bit of an injury bug, and they probably just wanted to go with the younger legs. I know for a fact Champ is better then Rob and White as we speak.

You watching a personal workout while you post?

We can debate all day about Champ vs PRob or White and why he was cut. What is more telling for me is that he is still out there going into week 3 isn't he?

There is something we don't now about.

rezburna · 09-16-2014, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

You watching a personal workout while you post?

We can debate all day about Champ vs PRob or White and why he was cut. What is more telling for me is that he is still out there going into week 3 isn't he?

There is something we don't now about.

Could say the same about Jabari Greer and him now having to retire but there were plenty who wanted him back too. I'd rather take my chances with an old hall of famer then a young, no namer who's been getting toasted for the majority of his career.

SaintLeonard · 09-16-2014, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Could say the same about Jabari Greer and him now having to retire but there were plenty who wanted him back too. I'd rather take my chances with an old hall of famer then a young, no namer who's been getting toasted for the majority of his career.

Just because Champ's a future hall of famer doesn't mean he's better than the other guys on the team at this current point and time. Champ is just simply washed up now. There's a reason that 1) we cut him and 2) no other team has picked him up.

Champ obviously created a reputation of being a shutdown corner during his career, and he deserves to be remembered as a shutdown corner, but he's just not that player anymore based on the two things I mentioned above.

TheOak · 09-17-2014, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Could say the same about Jabari Greer and him now having to retire but there were plenty who wanted him back too. I'd rather take my chances with an old hall of famer then a young, no namer who's been getting toasted for the majority of his career.

You are probably talking to one of the few non Greer fans in existence. A whole lot of people are forgetting 49er, Patriot, and Packers games where Greer was smoked like a bacon wrapped blunt.

Greer is retired because of a career ending injury.

dizzle88 · 09-17-2014, 07:30 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

You are probably talking to one of the few non Greer fans in existence. A whole lot of people are forgetting 49er, Patriot, and Packers games where Greer was smoked like a bacon wrapped blunt.

Greer is retired because of a career ending injury.

Greer had some bad games, especially when he allowed the pats TD at the end but he had significantly more good games than he did bad

He often closed out wins with key interceptions/ pass breakups

Falcons in 2012, intercepted 2 passes to end the game vs lions in 2011 playoffs as a couple examples

I can't even name one good game that Patrick Robinson has had.

TheOak · 09-17-2014, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Greer had some bad games, especially when he allowed the pats TD at the end but he had significantly more good games than he did bad

He often closed out wins with key interceptions/ pass breakups

Falcons in 2012, intercepted 2 passes to end the game vs lions in 2011 playoffs as a couple examples

I can't even name one good game that Patrick Robinson has had.

He had 2 INTs against TB in 2012 as well. I am not by any means saying that I wouldn't rather him on the field than Robinson. What I am saying is that Greer is retired and being preferred over Robinson isn't saying a whole lot..

Greer was just too inconsistent for my taste. When you look at his performance grades it looks like an EKG. This is his 2012 grading.

09-15-2014, 07:46 PM	#1
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,096	Re: Loomis was asked about potentially re-signing Champ Bailey I honestly don't think they beat Champ out. He had a bit of an injury bug, and they probably just wanted to go with the younger legs. I know for a fact Champ is better then Rob and White as we speak. SapperSaint, saintsfan1976, blackangold and 1 others like this.

09-15-2014, 08:05 PM	#2
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Loomis was asked about potentially re-signing Champ Bailey Originally Posted by rezburna I know for a fact Champ is better then Rob and White as we speak. How so? Champ apparently wasn't good enough or healthy enough to beat out either Rob or White...

09-15-2014, 10:50 PM	#3
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Loomis was asked about potentially re-signing Champ Bailey Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| How so? Champ apparently wasn't good enough or healthy enough to beat out either Rob or White... I think health was the only factor. Robinson got picked on every preseason game while champ played great in the 2 games we saw. Every corner on the roster looked better than Robinson during the preseason. I know people are going to say he looked good in practice but no one actually knows coaches aren't going to say he looked bad. Robinson is the scapegoat right now and getting rid of him wont solve everything but it will make our defense better. WhoDatFan26 likes this.

09-19-2014, 11:30 PM	#4
WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: Loomis was asked about potentially re-signing Champ Bailey Originally Posted by blackangold I think health was the only factor. Robinson got picked on every preseason game while champ played great in the 2 games we saw. Every corner on the roster looked better than Robinson during the preseason. I know people are going to say he looked good in practice but no one actually knows coaches aren't going to say he looked bad. Robinson is the scapegoat right now and getting rid of him wont solve everything but it will make our defense better. This is something I have stated numerous times. Champ didn't get beat out, he just wasn't healthy enough to show he could play a full 16 games.
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09-16-2014, 04:19 AM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Loomis was asked about potentially re-signing Champ Bailey Originally Posted by rezburna I honestly don't think they beat Champ out. He had a bit of an injury bug, and they probably just wanted to go with the younger legs. I know for a fact Champ is better then Rob and White as we speak. You watching a personal workout while you post? We can debate all day about Champ vs PRob or White and why he was cut. What is more telling for me is that he is still out there going into week 3 isn't he? There is something we don't now about. ScottF and SaintLeonard like this.

09-16-2014, 01:14 PM	#6
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,096	Re: Loomis was asked about potentially re-signing Champ Bailey Originally Posted by TheOak You watching a personal workout while you post? We can debate all day about Champ vs PRob or White and why he was cut. What is more telling for me is that he is still out there going into week 3 isn't he? There is something we don't now about. Could say the same about Jabari Greer and him now having to retire but there were plenty who wanted him back too. I'd rather take my chances with an old hall of famer then a young, no namer who's been getting toasted for the majority of his career. WhoDatFan26 likes this.

09-16-2014, 07:39 PM	#7
SaintLeonard Bounty hunter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Nashville Posts: 490	Re: Loomis was asked about potentially re-signing Champ Bailey Originally Posted by rezburna Could say the same about Jabari Greer and him now having to retire but there were plenty who wanted him back too. I'd rather take my chances with an old hall of famer then a young, no namer who's been getting toasted for the majority of his career. Just because Champ's a future hall of famer doesn't mean he's better than the other guys on the team at this current point and time. Champ is just simply washed up now. There's a reason that 1) we cut him and 2) no other team has picked him up. Champ obviously created a reputation of being a shutdown corner during his career, and he deserves to be remembered as a shutdown corner, but he's just not that player anymore based on the two things I mentioned above.

09-17-2014, 06:38 AM	#8
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Loomis was asked about potentially re-signing Champ Bailey Originally Posted by rezburna Could say the same about Jabari Greer and him now having to retire but there were plenty who wanted him back too. I'd rather take my chances with an old hall of famer then a young, no namer who's been getting toasted for the majority of his career. You are probably talking to one of the few non Greer fans in existence. A whole lot of people are forgetting 49er, Patriot, and Packers games where Greer was smoked like a bacon wrapped blunt. Greer is retired because of a career ending injury.

09-17-2014, 07:30 AM	#9
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: Loomis was asked about potentially re-signing Champ Bailey Originally Posted by TheOak You are probably talking to one of the few non Greer fans in existence. A whole lot of people are forgetting 49er, Patriot, and Packers games where Greer was smoked like a bacon wrapped blunt. Greer is retired because of a career ending injury. Greer had some bad games, especially when he allowed the pats TD at the end but he had significantly more good games than he did bad He often closed out wins with key interceptions/ pass breakups Falcons in 2012, intercepted 2 passes to end the game vs lions in 2011 playoffs as a couple examples I can't even name one good game that Patrick Robinson has had. WhoDatQB, TheOak and MarchingOn like this.

09-17-2014, 11:01 AM	#10
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Loomis was asked about potentially re-signing Champ Bailey Originally Posted by dizzle88 Greer had some bad games, especially when he allowed the pats TD at the end but he had significantly more good games than he did bad He often closed out wins with key interceptions/ pass breakups Falcons in 2012, intercepted 2 passes to end the game vs lions in 2011 playoffs as a couple examples I can't even name one good game that Patrick Robinson has had. He had 2 INTs against TB in 2012 as well. I am not by any means saying that I wouldn't rather him on the field than Robinson. What I am saying is that Greer is retired and being preferred over Robinson isn't saying a whole lot.. Greer was just too inconsistent for my taste. When you look at his performance grades it looks like an EKG. This is his 2012 grading. dizzle88 likes this.

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