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WhoDat!656 09-16-2014 03:22 PM

Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason?
 
Playing better at home doesn't trump/fix playing bad defense.

• New Orleans

What has gone wrong: The defense that coordinator Rob Ryan fixed in 2013 is broken once again. Tackling was awful in a Week 1 overtime loss at Atlanta and the coverage problems in the secondary continued in last Sunday’s loss to Cleveland.

Reason for optimism: A notoriously poor road team, the Saints return to the comfy confines of the Louisiana Superdome starting with Sunday’s home opener against Minnesota.

Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason?

dizzle88 09-16-2014 03:27 PM

Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason?
 
How does being at home help us when our secondary doesn't understand who to cover?

hagan714 09-16-2014 03:32 PM

Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason?
 
win the division.

AllSaints 09-16-2014 08:06 PM

Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason?
 
I have to say we suck on the road..... I won't be surprised if we look like a totally different Playoff Caliber team back in the dome Sunday ...

saintsfan1976 09-16-2014 09:04 PM

Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 611940)
win the division.

Priority #1. Nothing else matters. 5 division games left....

NOLA54 09-16-2014 09:10 PM

Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason?
 
It is not good enough to feel comfy at home. There are only 8 games at home and that does not get anyone into the playoffs. We need to win at least 5 road games and all 8 home games. Yes the pressure is on or the season is lost. How will they respond over the next few weeks?

WillSaints81 09-16-2014 09:16 PM

Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 611938)
How does being at home help us when our secondary doesn't understand who to cover?


What I think, that some people don't take notice of, is that maybe once we have a great home game it will get our confidence back. That Atlanta loss hurt more than just our defense, it hurt our pride and that can be hard to get over until you see what Cincinatti did to them. So I think starting back to back on the road may have had an impact. We didn't look good in 07 our first two games on even offense, and the week 3 came and all we heard was VY wants to show he can win in primetime and he did. Deuce had his injury in his last game as a starter playing for us. We did not get it going until week 6.

WillSaints81 09-16-2014 09:18 PM

Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason?
 
In all honesty I think Cleveland gave us a better fight than Detroit will. Cleveland has better secondary that matches up well against our offense. Detroit does not. So I think we can win at Detroit this year and once deep in a rhythym at Pittsburgh.

NOLA54 09-16-2014 09:34 PM

Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason?
 
Wait, I forgot. The Panthers started 0-2 last year and I thought it was over for them. I think they won the division.

Choupique 09-17-2014 11:57 AM

Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason?
 
two dat. we got this.

Mardigras9 09-17-2014 12:07 PM

Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason?
 
This team can definitely still go starting at 0-2, no question. They are going drop 60 this sunday. Even the defense can't screw up that kind of production.............hopefully.

SaintFanInATLHELL 09-17-2014 12:19 PM

Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason?
 
My thought is that we lost 2 games on the road by less than 3 points holding a lead inside the last 2 minutes of each game. Also the team scored a grand total of 58 points in those games.

Literally each game turned on a total of 2-3 plays each.

Now are the Saints exhibiting problems? Absolutely. The defense is a sieve and the offense both makes mistakes at critical times and do not seem to have a good game plan for the 4 minute offense at the end of games.

But I think there is a huge overreaction to not meeting the expectation of being 2-0 at this point. When the offense makes a few less mistakes and the defense makes a few more stops, then this sputtering start will soon be forgotten.

SFIAH

BusDriver 09-17-2014 12:25 PM

Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason?
 
8-0 at home 4-4 on the road = 12-4 hopefully the road goes thru Nola in the post season.

SaintFanInATLHELL 09-17-2014 12:37 PM

Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NOLA54 (Post 612017)
It is not good enough to feel comfy at home. There are only 8 games at home and that does not get anyone into the playoffs. We need to win at least 5 road games and all 8 home games. Yes the pressure is on or the season is lost. How will they respond over the next few weeks?

So what you are saying is that the team has pretty much blown its losing buffer and has to go 13-1 for the rest of the season or it's a total loss?

If you really feel that way I guess it's time to start talking about the draft in mid September. And who we need in free agency. And who the next DC is going to come in a resurrect the Dome Patrol. BTW, that's sarcasm.

The season may in fact be lost. But that isn't today. Playoff seeding doesn't even make sense until about week 10, and isn't generally clear at all until week 14 or 15. If after 15 weeks, the team is below 500, then I could understand the sentiment above. But it's week 2.

SFIAH

TheOak 09-17-2014 12:53 PM

Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NOLA54 (Post 612017)
It is not good enough to feel comfy at home. There are only 8 games at home and that does not get anyone into the playoffs. We need to win at least 5 road games and all 8 home games. Yes the pressure is on or the season is lost. How will they respond over the next few weeks?

From purely a record of 8-8 perspective these teams have made it to the playoffs.
1990 New Orleans Saints: Lost 16-6 to Chicago in wild card game
1991 New York Jets : Lost 17-10 to Houston in wild card game
1999 Dallas Cowboys : Lost 27-10 to Minnesota in wild card game
1999 Detroit Lions : Lost 27-13 to Washington in wild card game
2004 Minnesota Vikings: Beat Green Bay 31-17 (lost 27-14 to Philadelphia in divisional round)
2004 St. Louis: Beat Seattle 27-20 (lost 47-17 to Atlanta in divisional round)
2005 New York Giants : Lost to Carolina 23-0 in wild card game
2008 San Diego Chargers : Beat Indianapolis 23-17 (lost 35-24 to Pittsburgh in divisional round)
2011 Denver Broncos : Won AFC West (three-way tie)

Saintaintso 09-17-2014 01:07 PM

Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason?
 
Well hold on a second. I remember a statistic about the #1 seed rarely making itt o the superbowl when we and peytons colts made it there. I think your record is very vindictive on how good you are , but do not dismiss a team littered with losses making the playoffs.

07 Giants were lucky they made it at all
10 Packers were very similar to our team now.

Perhaps we were destined to split in Atlanta and drop a headscratcher or two on the road. We always do anyways. Looks like were taking our lumps early which feels bad , but itz demands we take a microscopic look at our team. The Atlanta and Cleveland losses may ensure that we dont commit the same errors come January. And to be honest , if there were a good time for us to correct Robinson or even lose Ingram for a few weeks it would be now , not when we host the Cardinals in the playoffs

halloween 65 09-17-2014 01:11 PM

Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason?
 
I wouldn't care what our record would be to get into the playoffs, as long as we were on fire when the time come. We can beat anyone when we are clicking on all cylinders, homefield advantage or not. We do still have to put up some wins to get there though!!

SaintFanInATLHELL 09-17-2014 01:16 PM

Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BusDriver (Post 612153)
8-0 at home 4-4 on the road = 12-4 hopefully the road goes thru Nola in the post season.

8-0 in back to back seasons is a tall order, ya think?

And frankly I'm no longer satisfied accepting this BS that the team can only win a championship as a #1 seed with HFA. If you are the best team in the conference, then it should be doable to win in anyone's stadium at any time of year.

The 23-15 loss in Seattle in January last season wasn't a blowout. It should be doable.

SFIAH

BusDriver 09-17-2014 04:36 PM

Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason?
 
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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 612174)
8-0 in back to back seasons is a tall order, ya think?

And frankly I'm no longer satisfied accepting this BS that the team can only win a championship as a #1 seed with HFA. If you are the best team in the conference, then it should be doable to win in anyone's stadium at any time of year.

The 23-15 loss in Seattle in January last season wasn't a blowout. It should be doable.

SFIAH

I believe the past 2 seasons Payton was 16-0 at home, so why not make it 3 years running? It is all speculation on my behalf but real possible. Also I agree they should be able to win anywhere, losing just sucks. :(

Rugby Saint II 09-18-2014 10:10 AM

Re: Seasons on the brink: Which 0-2 teams can still get to postseason?
 
I would love for the team to pick themselves up and dust themselves off. Home would be the place to do just that.
Rise up..............oh wait, that's taken. :roll:


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