Mike Triplett: What the Saints must fix

09-25-2014, 09:22 AM

I would be happy if we just learned how to tackle.
When other teams punt, I count those as turnovers.

xan · 09-25-2014, 10:26 AM

Isn't a 3-out a turnover?

Stupid is...

Audiotom · 09-25-2014, 09:45 PM

Last year we had so many 3 and outs it was hard to get turnovers

Our pass rush is weak and contain on the corners is not there
I would trade a few less sacks for keeping things in front of us

Please go to press coverage
Not this 15 yards back soft zone

Dont try to be Seattle

Barry from MS · 09-25-2014, 11:37 PM

If the secondary gets in the right positions with the right communication with a decent pass rush, we should get the INTs. We haven't gotten an INT since our final regular season game last year against Napoleon Dynamite, and have ONE turnover in 12 quarters this year.

But I'm scratching my head with our inability of forcing turnovers not being that big of a deal in an NFL football game, though. I've harped my concern with this inability in numerous posts, but maybe I'm missing something? I reckon if we win out without forcing another turnover, I'll just shut it right on up...

billyt81 · 09-25-2014, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by Audiotom

Last year we had so many 3 and outs it was hard to get turnovers

Our pass rush is weak and contain on the corners is not there
I would trade a few less sacks for keeping things in front of us

Please go to press coverage
Not this 15 yards back soft zone

Dont try to be Seattle

Doesn't Seattle play a ton of "press coverage?"

WHODATINCA · 09-26-2014, 02:18 AM

Originally Posted by billyt81

Doesn't Seattle play a ton of "press coverage?"

Have you heard the name 'Richard Sherman'?

Jack Vegas · 09-26-2014, 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

But I'm scratching my head with our inability of forcing turnovers not being that big of a deal in an NFL football game, though.

Just me, but I'd rather just the defense focus on making tackles and tight coverage than swiping at balls and gambling all the time. Turnovers should come as a result of good fundamental defense, not as a result of abandoning what made us a good defense in the first place.

Danno · 09-26-2014, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by billyt81

Doesn't Seattle play a ton of "press coverage?"

They play mostly a cover-3 zone, with occasional man-to-man.

Barry from MS · 09-26-2014, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

Just me, but I'd rather just the defense focus on making tackles and tight coverage than swiping at balls and gambling all the time. Turnovers should come as a result of good fundamental defense, not as a result of abandoning what made us a good defense in the first place.

No, I'm with you...I'd rather have a defense that's fundamentally sound than a gambling one that is overcompensating for lack of talent and fundamentals. A by-product of a fundamentally sound defense has got to be forced turnovers, and considering our talent on the defensive side of the ball, we should be creating those turnovers. So are we talented but not fundamentally sound? I'd have to say yes, hence the 1 forced turnover this year against pedestrian offenses...yes, the Fail Clowns included. Ain't giving them credit for nothing.

09-25-2014, 09:22 AM	#11
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09-25-2014, 10:26 AM	#12
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,371 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Mike Triplett: What the Saints must fix Isn't a 3-out a turnover? Stupid is... hagan714 likes this.

09-25-2014, 09:45 PM	#13
Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Mike Triplett: What the Saints must fix Last year we had so many 3 and outs it was hard to get turnovers Our pass rush is weak and contain on the corners is not there I would trade a few less sacks for keeping things in front of us Please go to press coverage Not this 15 yards back soft zone Dont try to be Seattle hagan714 likes this.

09-25-2014, 11:37 PM	#14
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Mike Triplett: What the Saints must fix If the secondary gets in the right positions with the right communication with a decent pass rush, we should get the INTs. We haven't gotten an INT since our final regular season game last year against Napoleon Dynamite, and have ONE turnover in 12 quarters this year. But I'm scratching my head with our inability of forcing turnovers not being that big of a deal in an NFL football game, though. I've harped my concern with this inability in numerous posts, but maybe I'm missing something? I reckon if we win out without forcing another turnover, I'll just shut it right on up... WHODATINCA likes this.
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09-25-2014, 11:49 PM	#15
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: Mike Triplett: What the Saints must fix Originally Posted by Audiotom Last year we had so many 3 and outs it was hard to get turnovers Our pass rush is weak and contain on the corners is not there I would trade a few less sacks for keeping things in front of us Please go to press coverage Not this 15 yards back soft zone Dont try to be Seattle Doesn't Seattle play a ton of "press coverage?"

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09-26-2014, 02:18 AM	#16
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: Mike Triplett: What the Saints must fix Originally Posted by billyt81 Doesn't Seattle play a ton of "press coverage?" Have you heard the name 'Richard Sherman'?

09-26-2014, 02:43 AM	#17
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Mike Triplett: What the Saints must fix Originally Posted by Barry from MS But I'm scratching my head with our inability of forcing turnovers not being that big of a deal in an NFL football game, though. Just me, but I'd rather just the defense focus on making tackles and tight coverage than swiping at balls and gambling all the time. Turnovers should come as a result of good fundamental defense, not as a result of abandoning what made us a good defense in the first place. Danno likes this.
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09-26-2014, 09:21 AM	#18
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Mike Triplett: What the Saints must fix Originally Posted by billyt81 Doesn't Seattle play a ton of "press coverage?" They play mostly a cover-3 zone, with occasional man-to-man.

09-26-2014, 09:34 AM	#19
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Mike Triplett: What the Saints must fix Originally Posted by Jack Vegas Just me, but I'd rather just the defense focus on making tackles and tight coverage than swiping at balls and gambling all the time. Turnovers should come as a result of good fundamental defense, not as a result of abandoning what made us a good defense in the first place. No, I'm with you...I'd rather have a defense that's fundamentally sound than a gambling one that is overcompensating for lack of talent and fundamentals. A by-product of a fundamentally sound defense has got to be forced turnovers, and considering our talent on the defensive side of the ball, we should be creating those turnovers. So are we talented but not fundamentally sound? I'd have to say yes, hence the 1 forced turnover this year against pedestrian offenses...yes, the Fail Clowns included. Ain't giving them credit for nothing.

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