stanley Jean-Baptiste

brees84 · 09-28-2014, 08:25 AM

Before someone says that he is a bust or wasted pick you better do a little research on 2014 rookie CBs and how are they performing.

dizzle88 · 09-28-2014, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by brees84

Before someone says that he is a bust or wasted pick you better do a little research on 2014 rookie CBs and how are they performing.

Besides kyle fuller in Chicago who has something like 3 ints in 3 games, he looks good so far.

brees84 · 09-28-2014, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Besides kyle fuller in Chicago who has something like 3 ints in 3 games, he looks good so far.

Yes, he is playing great. But he is early first round. On the other side Cleveland is benching Gilbert.

halloween 65 · 09-28-2014, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I dont get the SJB hate....

The guy shows a lot of potential. He may have the best press man coverage skills on the team, he just needs to find that instinct of when to turn and make a play on the ball (this is the hardest thing to adapt to). SJB may end up being the best CB on the team, but we will wait and see.

This is just like all the Corey White hate last year, totally unjustified and now everyone talks about White like the savior...

I'm not hating SJB he might become a great CB, but if Dixon is playing better Dixon should be over him. If SJB's light comes on then thats all the better for us, but I will say I have expected for his draft status he would be seeing some playing time, especially now but he hasn't so far. I also ask myself why would we try out 2 CB while we have him waiting in the wings the only thing that I could come up with is he's not ready. Raw projects take time look at JR.(UDFA), SJB(2nd round) big difference but still raw projects but if Dixon(UDFA) is more ready I'm all for it and if Dixon would become a shut down CB and keep SJB or Robinson or whoever challenged him for his spot off the field I would be fine with it, it's competition that makes things better, from 1st round picks through UDFA.

saintsfan1976 · 09-28-2014, 09:45 AM

Right now, SJB is a liability. Maybe that's not his fault, he's just not ready for the NFL and won't be for a couple seasons IMO

Danno · 09-28-2014, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I'm not hating SJB he might become a great CB, but if Dixon is playing better Dixon should be over him. If SJB's light comes on then thats all the better for us, but I will say I have expected for his draft status he would be seeing some playing time, especially now but he hasn't so far. I also ask myself why would we try out 2 CB while we have him waiting in the wings the only thing that I could come up with is he's not ready. Raw projects take time look at JR.(UDFA), SJB(2nd round) big difference but still raw projects but if Dixon(UDFA) is more ready I'm all for it and if Dixon would become a shut down CB and keep SJB or Robinson or whoever challenged him for his spot off the field I would be fine with it, it's competition that makes things better, from 1st round picks through UDFA.

True, and CB is one of the odd positions. Some come in and develop quickly, like Trufant and Alford for the lowlife Falcons, and some take quite a while, like our own Jabari Greer and Keenan Lewis did.

I think we all knew SJB would take quite a bit longer than normal to develop. He was raw coming out and it shows. Dixon may be more game-ready due to his experience at the position. He probably had a smaller learning curve.

dizzle88 · 09-28-2014, 10:49 AM

I'd be for bringing Derek cox in, we were trying to sign him before we landed Keenan lewis

If anything he can add some depth to the position and he's showed he can be a good player in the right system

hagan714 · 09-28-2014, 11:20 AM

SJB draws Witten in coverage? any of the others are quick and fast. it will be interesting

NonieT · 09-28-2014, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Doesn't matter. Whoever is out there will get burnt unless we can generate some semblance of a pass rush.

Thank you negative Norris. We really needed to hear that.

Cruize · 09-28-2014, 11:44 AM

SJB's skillset is as starter or not at all. I'm not concerned about him not playing at all. I firmly believe he will be the starter next season opposite Lewis. The person I would like to see get some snaps now is Sunseri. He made some plays and was always around the ball in preseason. The Saints need SOMEBODY to make a play or two. It would make all the difference in the world.

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09-28-2014, 08:31 AM	#12
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: stanley Jean-Baptiste Originally Posted by brees84 Before someone says that he is a bust or wasted pick you better do a little research on 2014 rookie CBs and how are they performing. Besides kyle fuller in Chicago who has something like 3 ints in 3 games, he looks good so far.

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brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: stanley Jean-Baptiste Originally Posted by dizzle88 Besides kyle fuller in Chicago who has something like 3 ints in 3 games, he looks good so far. Yes, he is playing great. But he is early first round. On the other side Cleveland is benching Gilbert. dizzle88 likes this.
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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: stanley Jean-Baptiste Originally Posted by blackangold I dont get the SJB hate.... The guy shows a lot of potential. He may have the best press man coverage skills on the team, he just needs to find that instinct of when to turn and make a play on the ball (this is the hardest thing to adapt to). SJB may end up being the best CB on the team, but we will wait and see. This is just like all the Corey White hate last year, totally unjustified and now everyone talks about White like the savior... I'm not hating SJB he might become a great CB, but if Dixon is playing better Dixon should be over him. If SJB's light comes on then thats all the better for us, but I will say I have expected for his draft status he would be seeing some playing time, especially now but he hasn't so far. I also ask myself why would we try out 2 CB while we have him waiting in the wings the only thing that I could come up with is he's not ready. Raw projects take time look at JR.(UDFA), SJB(2nd round) big difference but still raw projects but if Dixon(UDFA) is more ready I'm all for it and if Dixon would become a shut down CB and keep SJB or Robinson or whoever challenged him for his spot off the field I would be fine with it, it's competition that makes things better, from 1st round picks through UDFA. Danno likes this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: stanley Jean-Baptiste Originally Posted by halloween 65 I'm not hating SJB he might become a great CB, but if Dixon is playing better Dixon should be over him. If SJB's light comes on then thats all the better for us, but I will say I have expected for his draft status he would be seeing some playing time, especially now but he hasn't so far. I also ask myself why would we try out 2 CB while we have him waiting in the wings the only thing that I could come up with is he's not ready. Raw projects take time look at JR.(UDFA), SJB(2nd round) big difference but still raw projects but if Dixon(UDFA) is more ready I'm all for it and if Dixon would become a shut down CB and keep SJB or Robinson or whoever challenged him for his spot off the field I would be fine with it, it's competition that makes things better, from 1st round picks through UDFA. True, and CB is one of the odd positions. Some come in and develop quickly, like Trufant and Alford for the lowlife Falcons, and some take quite a while, like our own Jabari Greer and Keenan Lewis did. I think we all knew SJB would take quite a bit longer than normal to develop. He was raw coming out and it shows. Dixon may be more game-ready due to his experience at the position. He probably had a smaller learning curve. saintsfan1976 likes this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: stanley Jean-Baptiste I'd be for bringing Derek cox in, we were trying to sign him before we landed Keenan lewis If anything he can add some depth to the position and he's showed he can be a good player in the right system

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NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: stanley Jean-Baptiste Originally Posted by The Dude Doesn't matter. Whoever is out there will get burnt unless we can generate some semblance of a pass rush. Thank you negative Norris. We really needed to hear that. WhoDat2301 likes this.
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Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: stanley Jean-Baptiste SJB's skillset is as starter or not at all. I'm not concerned about him not playing at all. I firmly believe he will be the starter next season opposite Lewis. The person I would like to see get some snaps now is Sunseri. He made some plays and was always around the ball in preseason. The Saints need SOMEBODY to make a play or two. It would make all the difference in the world.
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