This team just aint worth watching.

RailBoss · 09-28-2014, 11:24 PM

Everyone is venting this one hurts bad. No ones going anywhere!

CharityMike · 09-28-2014, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

Everyone is venting this one hurts bad. No ones going anywhere!

Yeah but apparently venting frustration when the team is as it is means you are not a fan to some people around here.

WHODATINCA · 09-29-2014, 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

Yeah but apparently venting frustration when the team is as it is means you are not a fan to some people around here.

Not to me. Vent all you want. But, you guys will be back here next week -- I feel pretty sure. It's painful, but WTF, just get your bag out and try to enjoy it.

Danno · 09-29-2014, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

Yeah but apparently venting frustration when the team is as it is means you are not a fan to some people around here.

No, saying you're giving up after 4 games and only 1 game out of 1st place or you're gonna cut grass instead of watch this team means you're not as much of a fan as the loyal fans that would watch this team every week even if they were 0-16.

Criticism is understandable, abandoning them is not what real fans do. Especially being that we're only 1 game behind some really weak teams in our division and we've played exactly 1 home game.

I'm still 100% convinced that we win this division, crappy defense and all.

Mardigras9 · 09-29-2014, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

No, saying you're giving up after 4 games and only 1 game out of 1st place or you're gonna cut grass instead of watch this team means you're not as much of a fan as the loyal fans that would watch this team every week even if they were 0-16.

Criticism is understandable, abandoning them is not what real fans do. Especially being that we're only 1 game behind some really weak teams in our division and we've played exactly 1 home game.

I'm still 100% convinced that we win this division, crappy defense and all.

Agree in every way. Our division is horrible. This Saint team can still pull it together, but they have to start with the defense no doubt. Man that defensive performance was hard to watch.

dizzle88 · 09-29-2014, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

No, saying you're giving up after 4 games and only 1 game out of 1st place or you're gonna cut grass instead of watch this team means you're not as much of a fan as the loyal fans that would watch this team every week even if they were 0-16.

Criticism is understandable, abandoning them is not what real fans do. Especially being that we're only 1 game behind some really weak teams in our division and we've played exactly 1 home game.

I'm still 100% convinced that we win this division, crappy defense and all.

I'm glad your convinced because I'm not confident we'll win more than 5 or 6 games this season

I would never abandon the team, but I'm not prepared to book days off work and stay up until 5am to watch our players give that pathetic performance

If we lost a hard fought game then fair enough, but our players did not even try yesterday

K Major · 09-29-2014, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

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If we lost a hard fought game then fair enough, but our players did not even try yesterday

Diz, I hear you. I just don't see any passion right now. The body language is bad and no one seems pi$#ed off on the sidelines.

Remember when Roll Tide (Ingram) had the so called "outburst" when he wasn't on the same page with an OLineman a few weeks back & some made big deal out of it? We need guys to start jaw jacking, HUSTLING, communicating and acting like they care. The passion & desire to be great on every play is missing thus far. Those fools on the Dallas bench were laughing at us in the 3rd quarter.

We can right the ship, however the sense of urgency has to start immediately.

blackangold · 09-29-2014, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

No, saying you're giving up after 4 games and only 1 game out of 1st place or you're gonna cut grass instead of watch this team means you're not as much of a fan as the loyal fans that would watch this team every week even if they were 0-16.

Criticism is understandable, abandoning them is not what real fans do. Especially being that we're only 1 game behind some really weak teams in our division and we've played exactly 1 home game.

I'm still 100% convinced that we win this division, crappy defense and all.

I don't think this team is done because of the record. I think this team is done because of how they play. I don't need to drone on and on because we all have seen it, but it comes down to two very simple things.

1) The team (particularly the defense) plays with no energy and no passion as soon as they start getting beat they roll over like a scared puppy. This is a direct reflection of poor leadership from not only the coaches but the players as well.

2) The offense is far too predictable. After watching Payton's offense for 8 years I can predict 80% of the plays he will run. If I can do that you know a defensive coordinator can do the same. We played our best offense when Payton wasn't calling the plays. Did anyone else notice when we went no-huddle and Brees started calling the plays our offense started rolling?

Danno · 09-29-2014, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I don't think this team is done because of the record. I think this team is done because of how they play. I don't need to drone on and on because we all have seen it, but it comes down to two very simple things.

1) The team (particularly the defense) plays with no energy and no passion as soon as they start getting beat they roll over like a scared puppy. This is a direct reflection of poor leadership from not only the coaches but the players as well.

2) The offense is far too predictable. After watching Payton's offense for 8 years I can predict 80% of the plays he will run. If I can do that you know a defensive coordinator can do the same. We played our best offense when Payton wasn't calling the plays. Did anyone else notice when we went no-huddle and Brees started calling the plays our offense started rolling?

ME!!! For years I've wanted to start the game in our 2 minute offense, establish a sense of urgency and put the pressure on our opponent. Lure them into a hectic track meet. I think we'd win a lot more of those type games than we'd lose, a lot more.

blackangold · 09-29-2014, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

ME!!! For years I've wanted to start the game in our 2 minute offense, establish a sense of urgency and put the pressure on our opponent. Lure them into a hectic track meet. I think we'd win a lot more of those type games than we'd lose, a lot more.

I love that idea... but I don't see Payotn doing it. He seems to have become bland in the last few years. The league as adapted and passed him by but he is still calling plays from 06 like it's never been done before...

09-28-2014, 11:24 PM	#1
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09-28-2014, 11:32 PM	#2
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: THis team just aint worth watching. Originally Posted by RailBoss Everyone is venting this one hurts bad. No ones going anywhere! Yeah but apparently venting frustration when the team is as it is means you are not a fan to some people around here.

09-29-2014, 01:24 AM	#3
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: THis team just aint worth watching. Originally Posted by CharityMike Yeah but apparently venting frustration when the team is as it is means you are not a fan to some people around here. Not to me. Vent all you want. But, you guys will be back here next week -- I feel pretty sure. It's painful, but WTF, just get your bag out and try to enjoy it.

09-29-2014, 08:48 AM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: THis team just aint worth watching. Originally Posted by CharityMike Yeah but apparently venting frustration when the team is as it is means you are not a fan to some people around here. No, saying you're giving up after 4 games and only 1 game out of 1st place or you're gonna cut grass instead of watch this team means you're not as much of a fan as the loyal fans that would watch this team every week even if they were 0-16. Criticism is understandable, abandoning them is not what real fans do. Especially being that we're only 1 game behind some really weak teams in our division and we've played exactly 1 home game. I'm still 100% convinced that we win this division, crappy defense and all. Halo, Mardigras9 and teddybarexxx like this.

09-29-2014, 08:52 AM	#5
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: THis team just aint worth watching. Originally Posted by Danno No, saying you're giving up after 4 games and only 1 game out of 1st place or you're gonna cut grass instead of watch this team means you're not as much of a fan as the loyal fans that would watch this team every week even if they were 0-16. Criticism is understandable, abandoning them is not what real fans do. Especially being that we're only 1 game behind some really weak teams in our division and we've played exactly 1 home game. I'm still 100% convinced that we win this division, crappy defense and all. Agree in every way. Our division is horrible. This Saint team can still pull it together, but they have to start with the defense no doubt. Man that defensive performance was hard to watch. Halo and Danno like this.

09-29-2014, 09:05 AM	#6
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,546	Re: THis team just aint worth watching. Originally Posted by Danno No, saying you're giving up after 4 games and only 1 game out of 1st place or you're gonna cut grass instead of watch this team means you're not as much of a fan as the loyal fans that would watch this team every week even if they were 0-16. Criticism is understandable, abandoning them is not what real fans do. Especially being that we're only 1 game behind some really weak teams in our division and we've played exactly 1 home game. I'm still 100% convinced that we win this division, crappy defense and all. I'm glad your convinced because I'm not confident we'll win more than 5 or 6 games this season I would never abandon the team, but I'm not prepared to book days off work and stay up until 5am to watch our players give that pathetic performance If we lost a hard fought game then fair enough, but our players did not even try yesterday

09-29-2014, 09:20 AM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,845 Blog Entries: 3	Re: THis team just aint worth watching. Originally Posted by dizzle88 I If we lost a hard fought game then fair enough, but our players did not even try yesterday Diz, I hear you. I just don't see any passion right now. The body language is bad and no one seems pi$#ed off on the sidelines. Remember when Roll Tide (Ingram) had the so called "outburst" when he wasn't on the same page with an OLineman a few weeks back & some made big deal out of it? We need guys to start jaw jacking, HUSTLING, communicating and acting like they care. The passion & desire to be great on every play is missing thus far. Those fools on the Dallas bench were laughing at us in the 3rd quarter. We can right the ship, however the sense of urgency has to start immediately. dizzle88 likes this.

09-29-2014, 09:55 AM	#8
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: THis team just aint worth watching. Originally Posted by Danno No, saying you're giving up after 4 games and only 1 game out of 1st place or you're gonna cut grass instead of watch this team means you're not as much of a fan as the loyal fans that would watch this team every week even if they were 0-16. Criticism is understandable, abandoning them is not what real fans do. Especially being that we're only 1 game behind some really weak teams in our division and we've played exactly 1 home game. I'm still 100% convinced that we win this division, crappy defense and all. I don't think this team is done because of the record. I think this team is done because of how they play. I don't need to drone on and on because we all have seen it, but it comes down to two very simple things. 1) The team (particularly the defense) plays with no energy and no passion as soon as they start getting beat they roll over like a scared puppy. This is a direct reflection of poor leadership from not only the coaches but the players as well. 2) The offense is far too predictable. After watching Payton's offense for 8 years I can predict 80% of the plays he will run. If I can do that you know a defensive coordinator can do the same. We played our best offense when Payton wasn't calling the plays. Did anyone else notice when we went no-huddle and Brees started calling the plays our offense started rolling? AlaskaSaints and brees84 like this.

09-29-2014, 09:59 AM	#9
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: THis team just aint worth watching. Originally Posted by blackangold I don't think this team is done because of the record. I think this team is done because of how they play. I don't need to drone on and on because we all have seen it, but it comes down to two very simple things. 1) The team (particularly the defense) plays with no energy and no passion as soon as they start getting beat they roll over like a scared puppy. This is a direct reflection of poor leadership from not only the coaches but the players as well. 2) The offense is far too predictable. After watching Payton's offense for 8 years I can predict 80% of the plays he will run. If I can do that you know a defensive coordinator can do the same. We played our best offense when Payton wasn't calling the plays. Did anyone else notice when we went no-huddle and Brees started calling the plays our offense started rolling? ME!!! For years I've wanted to start the game in our 2 minute offense, establish a sense of urgency and put the pressure on our opponent. Lure them into a hectic track meet. I think we'd win a lot more of those type games than we'd lose, a lot more. CharityMike likes this.

09-29-2014, 10:03 AM	#10
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: THis team just aint worth watching. Originally Posted by Danno ME!!! For years I've wanted to start the game in our 2 minute offense, establish a sense of urgency and put the pressure on our opponent. Lure them into a hectic track meet. I think we'd win a lot more of those type games than we'd lose, a lot more. I love that idea... but I don't see Payotn doing it. He seems to have become bland in the last few years. The league as adapted and passed him by but he is still calling plays from 06 like it's never been done before...

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