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saintsfan1976 10-01-2014 08:58 AM
Re: WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?!
 
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Originally Posted by westbankdaze (Post 615152)
I believe something internal is going on. I feel like our team is on strike or some kind of passive aggression towards management. Maybe it's time for payton to go.
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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 615153)
Yeah probably the ones who have played on this team with Sean Payton for years and contributed to the organization at a decent rate, then Graham and Byrd come in with monster contracts and eat up all the money so they can't get help at positions needed to return to the SuperBowl. Good fit or not, winning be damned, we're stuck with some people.
Since you both called it out, I'll share what I know. I have an inside-the-organization source (legit) who says there are 2-3 factions in the locker room.

PT is disgruntled as hell about being buried on the depth chart and "shopped around" twice.

Jimmy and Junior have been total d i c k s since their payday. Players are not mad they got paid but in how they're treating everyone else.

So some are pissed some are like "f-it, I'm getting mine" but overall Payton is losing the respect of a lot of players. Quickly.

This should explain the canned answers we're hearing from players and coaches alike.

Buckle up Who Dats, it could be a long season if we lose to TB.

Danno 10-01-2014 09:00 AM
Re: WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?!
 
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Originally Posted by teddybarexxx (Post 615365)
now it wasnt absurd, you and others just didnt realize what i was saying until that a$$ whoopin we took from the cowgirls. What i said all this time is with our offense in "cruical" times of the game they seem stagnant. Not able to move the ball, not getting first down, not protecting drew, drew throwing redzone int's and pick 6's, getting the ball with 7 mins left in a game where you only have a one point lead and not creating a drive to what could have possibly done in the browns etc etc is what i said all along. so that's why i said the offense is equally responsible for thos losses as well as our "cant stop a damn soul" defense.
Thats still absurd. If our defense was even close to at least average our offense would have a 3 score lead in the 4th and we wouldn't have to worry about a bottom feeder going 96 yards with 50 seconds left to beat us on a last second FG.

Partly responsible I could kinda buy, but even thats a pretty hard sell. Equally responsible is exactly what I said it was, absurd. We gave up 600 yards to the Falcons and our offense scored 37 points.

On what planet does that mean the offense and defense are equally to blame?

jnormand 10-01-2014 09:29 AM
Re: WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?!
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 615367)
Since you both called it out, I'll share what I know. I have an inside-the-organization source (legit) who says there are 2-3 factions in the locker room.

PT is disgruntled as hell about being buried on the depth chart and "shopped around" twice.

Jimmy and Junior have been total d i c k s since their payday. Players are not mad they got paid but in how they're treating everyone else.

So some are pissed some are like "f-it, I'm getting mine" but overall Payton is losing the respect of a lot of players. Quickly.

This should explain the canned answers we're hearing from players and coaches alike.

Buckle up Who Dats, it could be a long season if we lose to TB.
That's some scary dramatic **** there. If Payton loses the locker room, the season is already over.

Danno 10-01-2014 09:51 AM
Re: WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?!
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 615367)
Since you both called it out, I'll share what I know. I have an inside-the-organization source (legit) who says there are 2-3 factions in the locker room.

PT is disgruntled as hell about being buried on the depth chart and "shopped around" twice.

Jimmy and Junior have been total d i c k s since their payday. Players are not mad they got paid but in how they're treating everyone else.

So some are pissed some are like "f-it, I'm getting mine" but overall Payton is losing the respect of a lot of players. Quickly.

This should explain the canned answers we're hearing from players and coaches alike.

Buckle up Who Dats, it could be a long season if we lose to TB.
Thanks for the info. Something doesn't look right on the field and maybe they just don't have each others back like they used to.

We need an ass-kicker in the locker room to nip this in the bud. I can't help but think someone with Vilma's stature is sorely needed. It wouldn't hurt to bring him in as a position coach where he could still influence these guys.

Coach Payton has to know whats going on. He should take care of it from the coaching ranks. Rob Ryan seems like he's too much of a players coach to smack someone upside their head.

Then again, maybe its time to part ways with some of these malcontents. Stay young and stay hungry.

jnormand 10-01-2014 10:20 AM
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Reminiscent of the movie "Any given Sunday". Everyone's playing for themselves. Mad about business decisions and other players. I thought that was just Hollywood drama.

Utah_Saint 10-01-2014 06:15 PM
Re: WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 615367)
Since you both called it out, I'll share what I know. I have an inside-the-organization source (legit) who says there are 2-3 factions in the locker room.

PT is disgruntled as hell about being buried on the depth chart and "shopped around" twice.

Jimmy and Junior have been total d i c k s since their payday. Players are not mad they got paid but in how they're treating everyone else.

So some are pissed some are like "f-it, I'm getting mine" but overall Payton is losing the respect of a lot of players. Quickly.

This should explain the canned answers we're hearing from players and coaches alike.

Buckle up Who Dats, it could be a long season if we lose to TB.
Man, that's terrible. I hope your source (legit) is wrong. But it does fit with the way they've been playing.

I'm sure we all work with people we don't like but we're professional enough to still do the best job we can.

|Mitch| 10-01-2014 06:32 PM
Re: WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?!
 
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Originally Posted by teddybarexxx (Post 615364)
We're not committing to the run (now even more since M. Ingram is hurt)
You need to read this article: The 2014 Saints are Pretty Balanced. Does that Even Matter? | B&G looks like we're committing to the run to me...

NOLA54 10-01-2014 06:46 PM
Re: WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?!
 
The answer is simple. Detroit is winning & we are not.

NOLA54 10-01-2014 06:51 PM
Re: WTH is going on, WhoDats?!?!
 
I never thought in-fighting would be a problem with this team. But it makes sense with the implosion we have witnessed. Loosing to TB would not surprise me.

October is a new month and they should take it as a new start.

westbankdaze 10-02-2014 05:10 AM
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I am convinced it is a locker room mutiny. We are screwed.


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