The Saints Let Go Of A Bunch Of Players To Sign A $54-Million Free Agent, And It's Coming Back To Haunt Them

brees84 · 10-01-2014, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

The only FA at this time I have on the Radar for 2015
Byron Maxwell CB Seahawks

I don't know about that.
Did you watch the Denver game? Emmanuel Sanders owned him. I'll be careful with seahawks players (other than obvious ballers) . I don't like their coaches but they are doing fantastic job.

WillSaints81 · 10-03-2014, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

The only FA at this time I have on the Radar for 2015

Byron Maxwell CB Seahawks

But after signing Bird I do not see anything this big happening. But we are talking Mickey here so you never know.

A move like this would allow you work on other areas of the defense. both CB on an island 80% of the time

come on Drew really redo that contract.

Cap friendly extension all around for every one

He needs the money for over 100 diapers to change a week.

hagan714 · 10-01-2014, 10:57 AM

I think he is really the only CB right now that may help out. but cap wise i just do not see it happening anyways

P.J. Williams, CB, Florida State
Trae Waynes, CB, Michigan State

would be nice in round 1. so far they both have looked good. i am leaning towards Trae Waynes right now. not the freak athlete like PJ but it seems he plays smarter

|Mitch| · 10-01-2014, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

I think he is really the only CB right now that may help out. but cap wise i just do not see it happening anyways

We say that every year, but somehow Loomis works a miracle every year...

Danno · 10-01-2014, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

We say that every year, but somehow Loomis works a miracle every year...

True, but that miracle last year included parting ways with a bunch of players and several others shifting money into 2015, 2016 and 2017.

blackangold · 10-01-2014, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

We say that every year, but somehow Loomis works a miracle every year...

Agreed, the cap in future years should be no one's concern. That is one thing Loomis has done well. Evaluating defensive talent in the draft... not so much.

FinSaint · 10-01-2014, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

P.J. Williams, CB, Florida State
Trae Waynes, CB, Michigan State

would be nice in round 1. so far they both have looked good. i am leaning towards Trae Waynes right now. not the freak athlete like PJ but it seems he plays smarter

How about a G or a T with the 1st. According to the eyeball-test, Evans has lost a step or two with the recent injuries and Harris as the initial T depth didn't seem too good either.

WillSaints81 · 10-03-2014, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

I think he is really the only CB right now that may help out. but cap wise i just do not see it happening anyways

P.J. Williams, CB, Florida State
Trae Waynes, CB, Michigan State

would be nice in round 1. so far they both have looked good. i am leaning towards Trae Waynes right now. not the freak athlete like PJ but it seems he plays smarter

I would go Williams because of the conference. It appears there is a bit of a difference between the SEC, ACC, bigger winning schools and the rest. Fuller played for Virginia, Benjamin played for FSU. So far those are the top rookies.

dizzle88 · 10-01-2014, 03:22 PM

Byrd contract - Questionable, he's a fast player but so far not a difference maker he was painted out to be

Junior contract - Boy did we screw up there, he's completely lost his drive and effort to be great, when he doesn't beat the O line now he just stands around!!

Jimmy Graham contract - very hot and cold, he has something about him that makes me hate his play - mostly when he gives a lackluster effort to make a catch when its not right into his body, then stands around like its someone elses fault or looking for the flag

Very dysfunctional on both sides of the ball and I can't wait until Ingram is healthy, so far he is showing that he deserved the fifth year option not Cameron Jordan

Utah_Saint · 10-01-2014, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I can't wait until Ingram is healthy, so far he is showing that he deserved the fifth year option...

I think his injuries are part of the reason he didn't get the option. Besides the fact that the fifth year options on RBs is grossly over market value right now.

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brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: The Saints Let Go Of A Bunch Of Players To Sign A $54-Million Free Agent, And It's Coming Back To Haunt Them Originally Posted by hagan714 The only FA at this time I have on the Radar for 2015 Byron Maxwell CB Seahawks I don't know about that. Did you watch the Denver game? Emmanuel Sanders owned him. I'll be careful with seahawks players (other than obvious ballers) . I don't like their coaches but they are doing fantastic job. hagan714 likes this.
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WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: The Saints Let Go Of A Bunch Of Players To Sign A $54-Million Free Agent, And It's Coming Back To Haunt Them Originally Posted by hagan714 The only FA at this time I have on the Radar for 2015 Byron Maxwell CB Seahawks But after signing Bird I do not see anything this big happening. But we are talking Mickey here so you never know. A move like this would allow you work on other areas of the defense. both CB on an island 80% of the time come on Drew really redo that contract. Cap friendly extension all around for every one He needs the money for over 100 diapers to change a week.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: The Saints Let Go Of A Bunch Of Players To Sign A $54-Million Free Agent, And It's Coming Back To Haunt Them I think he is really the only CB right now that may help out. but cap wise i just do not see it happening anyways P.J. Williams, CB, Florida State Trae Waynes, CB, Michigan State would be nice in round 1. so far they both have looked good. i am leaning towards Trae Waynes right now. not the freak athlete like PJ but it seems he plays smarter

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: The Saints Let Go Of A Bunch Of Players To Sign A $54-Million Free Agent, And It's Coming Back To Haunt Them Originally Posted by hagan714 I think he is really the only CB right now that may help out. but cap wise i just do not see it happening anyways We say that every year, but somehow Loomis works a miracle every year... hagan714 likes this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: The Saints Let Go Of A Bunch Of Players To Sign A $54-Million Free Agent, And It's Coming Back To Haunt Them Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| We say that every year, but somehow Loomis works a miracle every year... True, but that miracle last year included parting ways with a bunch of players and several others shifting money into 2015, 2016 and 2017.

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blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: The Saints Let Go Of A Bunch Of Players To Sign A $54-Million Free Agent, And It's Coming Back To Haunt Them Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| We say that every year, but somehow Loomis works a miracle every year... Agreed, the cap in future years should be no one's concern. That is one thing Loomis has done well. Evaluating defensive talent in the draft... not so much.

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: The Saints Let Go Of A Bunch Of Players To Sign A $54-Million Free Agent, And It's Coming Back To Haunt Them Originally Posted by hagan714 P.J. Williams, CB, Florida State Trae Waynes, CB, Michigan State would be nice in round 1. so far they both have looked good. i am leaning towards Trae Waynes right now. not the freak athlete like PJ but it seems he plays smarter How about a G or a T with the 1st. According to the eyeball-test, Evans has lost a step or two with the recent injuries and Harris as the initial T depth didn't seem too good either. Utah_Saint likes this.

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WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: The Saints Let Go Of A Bunch Of Players To Sign A $54-Million Free Agent, And It's Coming Back To Haunt Them Originally Posted by hagan714 I think he is really the only CB right now that may help out. but cap wise i just do not see it happening anyways P.J. Williams, CB, Florida State Trae Waynes, CB, Michigan State would be nice in round 1. so far they both have looked good. i am leaning towards Trae Waynes right now. not the freak athlete like PJ but it seems he plays smarter I would go Williams because of the conference. It appears there is a bit of a difference between the SEC, ACC, bigger winning schools and the rest. Fuller played for Virginia, Benjamin played for FSU. So far those are the top rookies.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: The Saints Let Go Of A Bunch Of Players To Sign A $54-Million Free Agent, And It's Coming Back To Haunt Them Byrd contract - Questionable, he's a fast player but so far not a difference maker he was painted out to be Junior contract - Boy did we screw up there, he's completely lost his drive and effort to be great, when he doesn't beat the O line now he just stands around!! Jimmy Graham contract - very hot and cold, he has something about him that makes me hate his play - mostly when he gives a lackluster effort to make a catch when its not right into his body, then stands around like its someone elses fault or looking for the flag Very dysfunctional on both sides of the ball and I can't wait until Ingram is healthy, so far he is showing that he deserved the fifth year option not Cameron Jordan
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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: The Saints Let Go Of A Bunch Of Players To Sign A $54-Million Free Agent, And It's Coming Back To Haunt Them Originally Posted by dizzle88 I can't wait until Ingram is healthy, so far he is showing that he deserved the fifth year option... I think his injuries are part of the reason he didn't get the option. Besides the fact that the fifth year options on RBs is grossly over market value right now.

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