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Saintaintso 10-01-2014 06:47 AM

Somethings off here ..
 
From 2008 to now , we've pretty much been through it all as saints fans. We've been unstoppable, dominant , embarrassed , humbled and awe struck at times. One thing this offense never has been though is flat.

I mean , where the hell is the Jimmy Graham we let half the roster go for ?

Whats up with Kenny Stills ? Wasnt he supposedly potentially our new no.1 guy ?

What in the name of Jesus Christ is up with Colston either being not thrown to for games at a time or getting thrown to but dropping damn there every ball ?

Something is off here. And dont even get me started on that defense.

The hells the matter with you guys ?

Danno 10-01-2014 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Saintaintso (Post 615350)
From 2008 to now , we've pretty much been through it all as saints fans. We've been unstoppable, dominant , embarrassed , humbled and awe struck at times. One thing this offense never has been though is flat.

I mean , where the hell is the Jimmy Graham we let half the roster go for ?

Whats up with Kenny Stills ? Wasnt he supposedly potentially our new no.1 guy ?

What in the name of Jesus Christ is up with Colston either being not thrown to for games at a time or getting thrown to but dropping damn there every ball ?

Something is off here. And dont even get me started on that defense.

The hells the matter with you guys ?

Jimmy is on pace for 130 catches, 1400 yards and 12 TD's. Thats pretty good
Stills is getting his usual 3 or 4 catches per game, not great but OK especially since he was slowed by a quad injury. No one suggested Stills was going to become a #1 WR.

Colston? I dunno, your guess is as good as mine. Age perhaps? An injury they aren't disclosing?

Our offense is #3 in the league. I'm thinking the main problem with this team may be a defense on pace to possibly be worse than the 2012 unit.

Mardigras9 10-01-2014 10:46 AM

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Complaining about offense and they are #3 in the league does not make sense to me. I realize they are not dropping 40 bombs on everyone like we are used to, but come on.
In three of the four games the offense has done enough to win, definitely not in Dallas. The O-line was terrible against Dallas, but the clear weak link this year is defense.

rezburna 10-01-2014 10:48 AM

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The defense just needs to play like a middle of the pack defense. That's it. Just be decent. Hold a team to 20 ppg. If we can't put up more then 20 ppg on offense, we don't deserve to win.

RailBoss 10-01-2014 12:18 PM

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How long was Rip Van Winkle asleep ?

Audiotom 10-01-2014 01:34 PM

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Our offense gave away two games with poor clock management and the inability to get a first down at the end of a game

instead of trying to establish the run lets be aggressive with the pass and work in the run off that

we make ourselves too predictable

and stop running in a new package every play

fast pace bam bam down the field when we need it

Danno 10-01-2014 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 615393)
Our offense gave away two games with poor clock management and the inability to get a first down at the end of a game

instead of trying to establish the run lets be aggressive with the pass and work in the run off that

we make ourselves too predictable

and stop running in a new package every play

fast pace bam bam down the field when we need it

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|Mitch| 10-01-2014 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 615393)
Our offense gave away two games with poor clock management and the inability to get a first down at the end of a game

Just a question; would we need to rely on first downs at the end of a game with even a resemblance of a defense?

Saintaintso 10-01-2014 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 615401)
Just a question; would we need to rely on first downs at the end of a game with even a resemblance of a defense?


What if I told you that our defense would never be any good , but we could still win a few rings if we ran the ball more often to help them ?

Does it matter how we win or that we win ?

Danno 10-01-2014 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by teddybarexxx (Post 615403)
@audiotom. i couldnt have said this any clearer (waite a minute that is what i've been saying all along). people like #dunno said its not the offense its the defense.

No, you said the 1st two losses were equal in blame.

So if you want our top 3 offense do some things differently to keep our terrible defense off the field...

That statement there is proof that the two aren't even remotely equally at fault.

Our defense is the MAIN problem, plain and simple.

Danno 10-01-2014 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 615401)
Just a question; would we need to rely on first downs at the end of a game with even a resemblance of a defense?

No, we wouldn't.

Which of the following statements makes more sense...


If we had the best offense in the history of the NFL and were scoring 40 points every game we'd be 4-0

OR...

If we had just a decent defense that could actually stop the other team every once in a while we'd be 4-0.

Mardigras9 10-02-2014 10:22 AM

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Through the first two losses this season, didn't we have the highest scoring offense in the league?
And it's the offense's inability to get a first down that made us lose?
Nope still siding on bad defense.

|Mitch| 10-02-2014 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mardigras9 (Post 615551)
Through the first two losses this season, didn't we have the highest scoring offense in the league?
And it's the offense's inability to get a first down that made us lose?
Nope still siding on bad defense.

= Defense is the problem

Saintaintso 10-02-2014 12:12 PM

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What you say is true , however not as true as the notion that one or two more carries would've header those field goals impossible.

That's like Tyson boxing with Ali's jab. He's too damn short for that. You have to work with what you got , which still at the end of the day can be just as good if not better.

No our defense hasn't played well , but we haven't tried to keep them off the field at all. That matters.

AliJee 10-02-2014 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 615393)
Our offense gave away two games with poor clock management and the inability to get a first down at the end of a game

instead of trying to establish the run lets be aggressive with the pass and work in the run off that

we make ourselves too predictable

and stop running in a new package every play

fast pace bam bam down the field when we need it

And my man Drew is always good for a pick in away games.


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