Somethings off here ..

Saintaintso · 10-01-2014, 07:47 AM

From 2008 to now , we've pretty much been through it all as saints fans. We've been unstoppable, dominant , embarrassed , humbled and awe struck at times. One thing this offense never has been though is flat.

I mean , where the hell is the Jimmy Graham we let half the roster go for ?

Whats up with Kenny Stills ? Wasnt he supposedly potentially our new no.1 guy ?

What in the name of Jesus Christ is up with Colston either being not thrown to for games at a time or getting thrown to but dropping damn there every ball ?

Something is off here. And dont even get me started on that defense.

The hells the matter with you guys ?

Danno · 10-01-2014, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by Saintaintso

From 2008 to now , we've pretty much been through it all as saints fans. We've been unstoppable, dominant , embarrassed , humbled and awe struck at times. One thing this offense never has been though is flat.

I mean , where the hell is the Jimmy Graham we let half the roster go for ?

Whats up with Kenny Stills ? Wasnt he supposedly potentially our new no.1 guy ?

What in the name of Jesus Christ is up with Colston either being not thrown to for games at a time or getting thrown to but dropping damn there every ball ?

Something is off here. And dont even get me started on that defense.

The hells the matter with you guys ?

Jimmy is on pace for 130 catches, 1400 yards and 12 TD's. Thats pretty good
Stills is getting his usual 3 or 4 catches per game, not great but OK especially since he was slowed by a quad injury. No one suggested Stills was going to become a #1 WR.

Colston? I dunno, your guess is as good as mine. Age perhaps? An injury they aren't disclosing?

Our offense is #3 in the league. I'm thinking the main problem with this team may be a defense on pace to possibly be worse than the 2012 unit.

Mardigras9 · 10-01-2014, 11:46 AM

Complaining about offense and they are #3 in the league does not make sense to me. I realize they are not dropping 40 bombs on everyone like we are used to, but come on.
In three of the four games the offense has done enough to win, definitely not in Dallas. The O-line was terrible against Dallas, but the clear weak link this year is defense.

rezburna · 10-01-2014, 11:48 AM

The defense just needs to play like a middle of the pack defense. That's it. Just be decent. Hold a team to 20 ppg. If we can't put up more then 20 ppg on offense, we don't deserve to win.

RailBoss · 10-01-2014, 01:18 PM

How long was Rip Van Winkle asleep ?

Audiotom · 10-01-2014, 02:34 PM

Our offense gave away two games with poor clock management and the inability to get a first down at the end of a game

instead of trying to establish the run lets be aggressive with the pass and work in the run off that

we make ourselves too predictable

and stop running in a new package every play

fast pace bam bam down the field when we need it

Danno · 10-01-2014, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Audiotom

Our offense gave away two games with poor clock management and the inability to get a first down at the end of a game

instead of trying to establish the run lets be aggressive with the pass and work in the run off that

we make ourselves too predictable

and stop running in a new package every play

fast pace bam bam down the field when we need it

|Mitch| · 10-01-2014, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Audiotom

Our offense gave away two games with poor clock management and the inability to get a first down at the end of a game

Just a question; would we need to rely on first downs at the end of a game with even a resemblance of a defense?

Saintaintso · 10-01-2014, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Just a question; would we need to rely on first downs at the end of a game with even a resemblance of a defense?

What if I told you that our defense would never be any good , but we could still win a few rings if we ran the ball more often to help them ?

Does it matter how we win or that we win ?

Danno · 10-01-2014, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

@audiotom. i couldnt have said this any clearer (waite a minute that is what i've been saying all along). people like #dunno said its not the offense its the defense.

No, you said the 1st two losses were equal in blame.

So if you want our top 3 offense do some things differently to keep our terrible defense off the field...

That statement there is proof that the two aren't even remotely equally at fault.

Our defense is the MAIN problem, plain and simple.

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Saintaintso 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 937	Somethings off here .. From 2008 to now , we've pretty much been through it all as saints fans. We've been unstoppable, dominant , embarrassed , humbled and awe struck at times. One thing this offense never has been though is flat. I mean , where the hell is the Jimmy Graham we let half the roster go for ? Whats up with Kenny Stills ? Wasnt he supposedly potentially our new no.1 guy ? What in the name of Jesus Christ is up with Colston either being not thrown to for games at a time or getting thrown to but dropping damn there every ball ? Something is off here. And dont even get me started on that defense. The hells the matter with you guys ? teddybarexxx likes this.
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10-01-2014, 11:36 AM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Somethings off here .. Originally Posted by Saintaintso From 2008 to now , we've pretty much been through it all as saints fans. We've been unstoppable, dominant , embarrassed , humbled and awe struck at times. One thing this offense never has been though is flat. I mean , where the hell is the Jimmy Graham we let half the roster go for ? Whats up with Kenny Stills ? Wasnt he supposedly potentially our new no.1 guy ? What in the name of Jesus Christ is up with Colston either being not thrown to for games at a time or getting thrown to but dropping damn there every ball ? Something is off here. And dont even get me started on that defense. The hells the matter with you guys ? Jimmy is on pace for 130 catches, 1400 yards and 12 TD's. Thats pretty good Stills is getting his usual 3 or 4 catches per game, not great but OK especially since he was slowed by a quad injury. No one suggested Stills was going to become a #1 WR. Colston? I dunno, your guess is as good as mine. Age perhaps? An injury they aren't disclosing? Our offense is #3 in the league. I'm thinking the main problem with this team may be a defense on pace to possibly be worse than the 2012 unit.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Somethings off here .. Originally Posted by Audiotom Our offense gave away two games with poor clock management and the inability to get a first down at the end of a game instead of trying to establish the run lets be aggressive with the pass and work in the run off that we make ourselves too predictable and stop running in a new package every play fast pace bam bam down the field when we need it

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Somethings off here .. Originally Posted by Audiotom Our offense gave away two games with poor clock management and the inability to get a first down at the end of a game Just a question; would we need to rely on first downs at the end of a game with even a resemblance of a defense?

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Saintaintso 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 937	Re: Somethings off here .. Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Just a question; would we need to rely on first downs at the end of a game with even a resemblance of a defense? What if I told you that our defense would never be any good , but we could still win a few rings if we ran the ball more often to help them ? Does it matter how we win or that we win ?
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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Somethings off here .. Originally Posted by teddybarexxx @audiotom. i couldnt have said this any clearer (waite a minute that is what i've been saying all along). people like #dunno said its not the offense its the defense. No, you said the 1st two losses were equal in blame. So if you want our top 3 offense do some things differently to keep our terrible defense off the field... That statement there is proof that the two aren't even remotely equally at fault. Our defense is the MAIN problem, plain and simple.

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