Benching Underachievers

AllSaints · 10-01-2014, 05:53 PM

Call up Vilma... hell it can't get much worse at LB....

jonnyrotten · 10-01-2014, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

At least your focusing on the right side of the ball.

Both sides need it. bench Colston, graham, and brees cause he ain't exactly setting the world on fire either.

Utah_Saint · 10-01-2014, 07:21 PM

I like the idea of benching the under achievers but I wouldn't suggest a mass benching until the Saints are out of playoff contention. Maybe target one or two of the worst to show the rest they're serious.

After the Saints are out of it, bench em all. Let the back ups get some experience cause these starters will have shown they're not the future.

NOLA54 · 10-01-2014, 08:05 PM

It's too bad when players get their pay day, their performance falls off. What the H..l is the answer?

Foot Stomper · 10-01-2014, 08:54 PM

For your benching premise to work out it assumes those benched actually care and respond by being better. That's a suckers bet at best right now.

Danno · 10-01-2014, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by jonnyrotten

Both sides need it. bench Colston, graham, and brees cause he ain't exactly setting the world on fire either.

Graham? Why Graham? He's on pace for another monster season.

And RG4 or McCown over Brees?

Not getting that one.

brees84 · 10-01-2014, 09:35 PM

This is ridiculous.

I still think coaching is the problem.

Barry from MS · 10-01-2014, 10:07 PM

Honestly don't see the offense having nearly as many underachievers as the defense does. You may could make the case for Grubbs being in that group, since he ends up on his backside far too often for a starting NFL Guard.

This defense, however, is just littered with underachievement. And coaching is the problem when coaches allow players who are not performing to take snaps away from those players who can make this team better with their effort and with their play within the system.

K Major · 10-01-2014, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

V. Sunseri, Starting SS...bench KVac. Don't think KVac is fully healthy, but he's becoming a liability in run & pass defense. Yes, bench a #1st round draft pick, especially if he is not 100%.

I wouldn't mind seeing more of Sunseri in the starting SS rotation simply because of what is between his ears. I like KVacarro but he seems to be one step behind so far this season. Don't know if he is out of position but playing like a corner is not working.

VegasSaint9 · 10-01-2014, 10:55 PM

I think if we just used him as you know, a strong safety with a clear, defined role, he could succeed, but whatever just keep using him to cover up deficiencies in the defense in roles he's not exactly suited for, like linebacker. I mean he does well for what he's used as which is a swiss army knife, but I feel we could do better if we just addressed the problem via FA, trades, or the draft.

10-01-2014, 05:53 PM	#11
AllSaints Breakin Records Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deville, Louisiana Posts: 2,167	Re: Benching Underachievers Call up Vilma... hell it can't get much worse at LB....

10-01-2014, 06:22 PM	#12
jonnyrotten 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Nashville Posts: 511	Re: Benching Underachievers Originally Posted by Danno At least your focusing on the right side of the ball. Both sides need it. bench Colston, graham, and brees cause he ain't exactly setting the world on fire either.

10-01-2014, 07:21 PM	#13
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Benching Underachievers I like the idea of benching the under achievers but I wouldn't suggest a mass benching until the Saints are out of playoff contention. Maybe target one or two of the worst to show the rest they're serious. After the Saints are out of it, bench em all. Let the back ups get some experience cause these starters will have shown they're not the future. Barry from MS likes this.

10-01-2014, 08:05 PM	#14
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Benching Underachievers It's too bad when players get their pay day, their performance falls off. What the H..l is the answer?

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Foot Stomper Carolina Sucks Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 379	Re: Benching Underachievers For your benching premise to work out it assumes those benched actually care and respond by being better. That's a suckers bet at best right now.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Benching Underachievers Originally Posted by jonnyrotten Both sides need it. bench Colston, graham, and brees cause he ain't exactly setting the world on fire either. Graham? Why Graham? He's on pace for another monster season. And RG4 or McCown over Brees? Not getting that one.

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brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: Benching Underachievers This is ridiculous. I still think coaching is the problem.
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10-01-2014, 10:07 PM	#18
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Benching Underachievers Honestly don't see the offense having nearly as many underachievers as the defense does. You may could make the case for Grubbs being in that group, since he ends up on his backside far too often for a starting NFL Guard. This defense, however, is just littered with underachievement. And coaching is the problem when coaches allow players who are not performing to take snaps away from those players who can make this team better with their effort and with their play within the system.

10-01-2014, 10:20 PM	#19
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Benching Underachievers Originally Posted by Barry from MS V. Sunseri, Starting SS...bench KVac. Don't think KVac is fully healthy, but he's becoming a liability in run & pass defense. Yes, bench a #1st round draft pick, especially if he is not 100%. I wouldn't mind seeing more of Sunseri in the starting SS rotation simply because of what is between his ears. I like KVacarro but he seems to be one step behind so far this season. Don't know if he is out of position but playing like a corner is not working. Barry from MS likes this.

10-01-2014, 10:55 PM	#20
VegasSaint9 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 360	Re: Benching Underachievers I think if we just used him as you know, a strong safety with a clear, defined role, he could succeed, but whatever just keep using him to cover up deficiencies in the defense in roles he's not exactly suited for, like linebacker. I mean he does well for what he's used as which is a swiss army knife, but I feel we could do better if we just addressed the problem via FA, trades, or the draft.

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