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Halo 10-03-2014 10:03 AM
Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics
 
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SportsNola.com writer David Grubb writes a truthful analysis of the Saints season and a laundry list of reasons on both sides of the ball as to why the saints season started to decline fast.

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"The reasons for the demise are numerous:
  • They haven’t pressured quarterbacks. The Saints just have five sacks in four games. At this point last season, they had 12.
  • Lack of pressure has led to loads of passing yards for opposing quarterbacks. The defense has allowed 1090 passing yards, tied for second worst in the league...."
(read the full list at SportsNola.com, link at the bottom of this article.)
Grubbs continues highlighting criticisms of the Saints offense and their sub-par play this season:

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"The team’s biggest perceived strength going in to the season has not performed at a level that fans have come to expect.
  • The Saints rank just 12th in the league offensively. They sit behind teams like Washington, Kansas City, and Miami.
  • While the Saints are 3rd in passing yards, Drew Brees has just 7 touchdown passes which ranks tied for eighth in the NFL...."
(read the full list at SportsNola.com, link at the bottom of this article.)
Ultimately, David Grubb puts the blame and responsibility for any possible turnaround on Saints head coach Sean Payton.

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No coach this side of Bill Belichick wields the kind of power within an organization that Payton does in New Orleans. This is his team, filled with his guys.

Then the writer points out alarming facts about Coach Payton's New Orleans Saints and their back-to-back playoff record.


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Those things aside, the fact remains that under Payton the Saints have not won playoff games in back-to-back seasons, and it looks like that streak will continue barring a major turnaround. The team cannot play enough on the road, going 0-3 this season and losing eight of their last nine away from New Orleans overall.

READ THE ENTIRE ARTICLE AND ANALYSIS AT SPORTSNOLA.COM

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Utah_Saint 10-03-2014 11:10 AM
Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics
 
Very doom and gloom article. Even stretches the truth to fit the authors negative agenda.

Mardigras9 10-03-2014 11:17 AM
Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics
 
Hopefully, we get to start seeing more positive articles after Tampa.

"Saints find their Mojo"
"Watchout, the Saints are back in town"
"Saints serve notice"

Something along these lines.

Utah_Saint 10-03-2014 11:22 AM
Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics
 
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Originally Posted by Mardigras9 (Post 615718)
Hopefully, we get to start seeing more positive articles after Tampa.

"Saints find their Mojo"
"Watchout, the Saints are back in town"
"Saints serve notice"

Something along these lines.
Yep, can't really blame them for writing negative stuff, it's gotta be hard to find the positives.

Halo 10-03-2014 11:28 AM
Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics
 
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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 615717)
Very doom and gloom article. Even stretches the truth to fit the authors negative agenda.
Yeah, after reading again, I guess it was negative. I usually try to concentrate on the upcoming opponent. Still, he makes a point - SP is the head coach and eventually blame will fall on him if the team doesn't start playing fundamental football.

Utah_Saint 10-03-2014 11:35 AM
Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics
 
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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 615722)
Yeah, after reading again, I guess it was negative. I usually try to concentrate on the upcoming opponent. Still, he makes a point - SP is the head coach and eventually blame will fall on him if the team doesn't start playing fundamental football.
That's true. And it would be tough to fill an article with positives about the Saints season so far.

blackangold 10-03-2014 12:07 PM
Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics
 
When nothing seems to be going right there is only one thing to blame, the lack of leadership and direction. The offense is inconsistent at best and the defense is awful along with the special team's sucking as usual.

Payton do your job!

QBREES9 10-03-2014 12:34 PM
Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics
 
The Saints have a game on Sunday. Lets start there.

Audiotom 10-03-2014 01:29 PM
Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics
 
2 road wins in a row would be of note

that said don't underestimate the bucs

win sunday

NOLA54 10-03-2014 09:36 PM
Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics
 
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Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 615746)
2 road wins in a row would be of note

that said don't underestimate the bucs

win sunday
I agree. Just beating the Bucs is not enough to celebrate.

darstep 10-04-2014 08:36 AM
Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics
 
12 games left. We need to win 10 of those, hopefully convincingly.
Sputter, putt-putt, then a fumble followed by an interception is NOT
what we have become accustomed to. Reminds me of days long past.
Payton usually has the guys ready to play, but not lately.
They start slow and never seem to recover.
The mindset has to change. They don't seem to be focused.
Mental mistakes, lacking fundamentals, bad angles, poor technique.
Time to hit the brakes and go the other way, and that must come from the leadership...
at every level.

QBREES9 10-04-2014 09:34 AM
Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics
 
Baby steps, Walk before you can run. But thats why we have preseason.

jeanpierre 10-05-2014 07:15 AM
Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics
 
This excerpt from the article - "Payton was mentored by Bill Parcells, who wasn’t credited with inventing any great offensive or defensive innovations. The Tuna had talented teams, but not historically so. Parcells won a lot of games in a lot of places by making football look pretty simple. He took away what other teams did well. His teams didn’t make mistakes to kill themselves. They were balanced and poised." - really encapsulates the situation; the team gets away from it's balance on offense, seems to force things rather than take what the opposition gives 'em, and gets too cute at times...

These are things that Payton has too address; remember reading Ryan saying his defensive schemes, reads, et al may have gotten too complicated...

vpheughan 10-05-2014 10:39 AM
Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics
 
"Get back to basics" Famous last words!!

dizzle88 10-05-2014 10:43 AM
Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics
 
Keep it simple stupid

Rugby Saint II 10-06-2014 12:38 PM
Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics
 
Payton is ultimately responsible.........it would be better if our draft picks would pan out.

SaintFanInATLHELL 10-06-2014 01:34 PM
Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics
 
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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 615717)
Very doom and gloom article. Even stretches the truth to fit the authors negative agenda.
I have to respectfully disagree. The points the author brought up are valid.

Simply put, if the defense can put together a single 3rd down play that is equivalent to Juniors safety each drive, then the saints would have a lot less to worry about.

The yards both on the ground and in the air that the defense is giving up is a function of not pressuring the QB and not getting off the field on 3rd down.

And honestly just like yesterday, the offense doesn't finish drives and has too too too too too (is that enough) many turnovers.

The record is clear, when the offense doesn't turn over the ball, we win.

So it's actually keeping it simple. Pressure the opposing QB by any means and don't turn the ball over.

SFIAH

SaintFanInATLHELL 10-06-2014 01:47 PM
Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics
 
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Originally Posted by darstep (Post 615957)
12 games left. We need to win 10 of those, hopefully convincingly.
We don't need to win 12 games. We need to win enough games to get to the playoffs. As this wikipedia entry points out:

National Football League playoffs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

there have been instances where the #6 seed has won it all.

I would advise after 5 games putting in lofty requirements for the season. You're just setting yourself up for disappointment.

The goal always has been, and always should be, getting to the playoffs and getting better. If that means getting in as a 10-6 division winner, then so be it.
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Sputter, putt-putt, then a fumble followed by an interception is NOT
what we have become accustomed to. Reminds me of days long past.
Payton usually has the guys ready to play, but not lately.
They start slow and never seem to recover.
The mindset has to change. They don't seem to be focused.
Mental mistakes, lacking fundamentals, bad angles, poor technique.
Time to hit the brakes and go the other way, and that must come from the leadership...
at every level.
Agreed. And just keeping it simple. Defense needs to get off the field. Offense needs to not give the ball away. That would be enough to beat all but the most elite teams in this league.

SFIAH

AlaskaSaints 10-06-2014 03:03 PM
Re: Coach Sean Payton & Saints need to get back to the basics
 
I'm quickly losing confidence in Payton's play calling. He's becoming the most predictable coach in the league.


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