Drew Brees never had a Dan Marino arm. His skill is similar to a surgeon. He can touch pass, shovel pass and throw deep. His deep passing has been reduced because we have moved more to control ball and we're attempting to establish running game.

I honestly feel players like Dan Marino had TOO strong of an arm where so many passes bounced off receivers and through hands. Marino was powerful.

To the noodle-arm crowd, again, when was Drew's arm ever stronger than it is now? A ton of other things go into QB accuracy and effectiveness. One element is time in the pocket, something that has diminished since 2011.

Since he has been a Saint, Drew Brees brought with him the ability to make things happen, all by himself. He's a game changer, and Saints fans are super spoiled. When those sparks he creates go bad and he throws an INT, he comes back and fixes the problem. Sometimes we fall short. Regardless, we never realize how many times his arm wins games for us. YES he gave away 14 points today, but YES he brought us back from the brink.

Criticism? Sure complain all you want. Drew Brees is the only player with gigantic contract who has continued to play at pro level, uninjured. In fact, he plays through injury and doesn't complain. What does the criticism do? Nothing because we have no other options available AND there is no other player we can go out and grab to replace Drew Brees who can do a better job. End of story. That's why it's a moot point. We got the QB we rode in with and will have him a few more years now.

Lotta' truth in this post (Marino would give you a concussion if he hit you in the back of the helmet ... there are stories, ). I would go to war with Drew Brees ... and I mean "real war", not a football field because I'd probably get him killed out there on one of those, . If any QB out there is gonna' correct his own deficiencies & "bring you back from the brink", it'll be #9, IMO. Even Brady/Rodgers have paled in comparison as of late ... P. Manning still remains in the running, but there's no denying Drew.

Saints fans have had it really good under Payton/Loomis with Drew and I am truly envious. I think it's more a fear of returning to the days of mediocrity/obscurity when DET/NO used to compete for the "doormat of the league" honors, or something similar, than actual complaining going on.

If anyone is gonna' get it done and correct what's been going on thus far this season, it's the team NO has in place ... you guys have true, proven leaders IMO. There's a lot of things that go on in this league that influence a team's progress and if anyone can weather the ups & downs, it's the Saints.

Just sayin', .