Re: Drew Brees Is Not in Decline — You Just Have Brees Nostalgia
 

Brees. Never said I wanted another QB. I want Brees to clean up the decision-making. That's all I've said all along. These picks do not help our chances to come back and win this division. He has to clean it up if we want to make it to the playoffs. Can't throw 18-22 picks with the inability of our defense to force turnovers.

Re: Drew Brees Is Not in Decline — You Just Have Brees Nostalgia
 

Here is a chart comparing Bress to Rodgers.

Statistically, over time, very similar.

In fact, since 2003, the trend line for Bress shows consistent improvement -- minus this shi++y year.

Re: Drew Brees Is Not in Decline — You Just Have Brees Nostalgia
 

Like someone said earlier, I want the 2009 Brees with 34 TD/11 INT (13-2 record). Or the 2013 Brees with 39 TD/12 INT (11-5 record). Or the 2011 Brees with 46 TD/14 INT (13-3 record).

He's on pace to throw almost 700 times this year, more than any other year in his career. Play-calling has a lot to do with this conversation as well. 2014 Brees is on pace (roughly) for 29 TD/20 INT.

TDs trend up & INTs trend down, we win this division.

BTW, I don't want Rodgers...Brees is the heart & soul of this team and this area. Rodgers is not.

Re: Drew Brees Is Not in Decline — You Just Have Brees Nostalgia
 

Seems like too many of us like to give #9 a mulligan on his play too often. If you get the stats and the glory, you should also be the goat when its deserved.
That being said, two things I've noticed this season:
1) His inability to hit a deep route in stride. Just about every deep shot, the receiver has had to pull up short when he had his defender beaten.
2) His inability to hit targets on short timing routes. In the past, he had the vision (and confidence in his receivers) to place that rock where he knew the receiver was going to be in the pattern. Now he's holding the ball longer and the window vs the defender closes faster.

Not sure if these are indicators of 'decline' per se, but his mechanics are definitely off.

Re: Drew Brees Is Not in Decline — You Just Have Brees Nostalgia
 

What a bunch of jumbled noise. I hate when people try to write funny/snarky columns like this. You're not funny!

And who's to say Brees is not in decline? I don't know how is arm feels or where his head is, and I don't claim to. I just know he's not playing so well. And he's not the only one. Colston has surely BEEN in decline, and that is not up for debate. The line has been ok in the run game but not so great against the pass. Everybody sees those things. It's not like it's one guy problem. But is Drew just struggling because of what's going on around him? Absolutely not. He has made some terrible decisions.

This stupid article wants to paint a picture of a bunch of meat heads who don't remember the past and have no ability to put anything into perspective. Don't get me wrong, those people definitely exist, but they have nothing to do with this. I, for one, am not basing my opinion on how many pick sixes he's thrown this year as opposed to any other year (which seems to be 90% of the basis of that crap above). That would be the meat head's argument. I'm looking at all of the decisions he's making, all of the underthrows, overthrows... Everything. We haven't seen these kinds of prolonged slumps too much.

Drew is one of my favorite people of all time, not just athlete, and I know he wants to play far better. I'm not down on the guy's character, but man, sometimes I don't know what he's thinking out there. When you're paid to be the franchise player, you know what's expected of you and I doubt Drew feels as complacent as this article wants the rest of us to be. There were high expectations for everyone on this team, and those expectations have not come close to being met. That's the bottom line. Nobody knows if he's physically in decline. But his play, lately, has been. As has been the case for many players on this team, unfortunately. What's wrong with saying that? Nobody cares when we complain about the defense, but it's morally wrong to question the play of the team leader?

Re: Drew Brees Is Not in Decline — You Just Have Brees Nostalgia
 

Exactly. It's not an indictment on his physical ability, necessarily, though some will disagree. But the timing is off. So many people are quick to just pass it off on the O-line, and while they deserve part of the blame, Drew definitely seems to be holding the ball way too long when he does have the time, as you pointed out. If people don't believe that then they aren't paying very close attention.

Re: Drew Brees Is Not in Decline — You Just Have Brees Nostalgia
 

:bng:

Re: Drew Brees Is Not in Decline — You Just Have Brees Nostalgia
 

Definitely True.
Which I fervently hope that the Saints defense figures out during the bye week. In short any journeyman looks like a HOF QB if there is no pressure... and every HOF QB looks like a journeyman under pressure.
I agree with all of this. It feels like he thinks he needs to carry the team because he doesn't trust the defense. But throwing picks is much worse than just punting the ball and hoping the defense will make a stop.
Now here I have to disagree. The Saints sucky 2-3 record is a collective team effort. There isn't any single unit, or virtually any single player or coach (except maybe Cooks) that is without blame for where the Saints are right now.

But Brees has to do his job. And the #1 job requirement for him is not to turn the ball over. On this so far he gets a solid 'D-'. It would be an 'F' except for the Minnesota game.
And that's why you and I are fans, and the players get paid millions of dollars.

SFIAH

Re: Drew Brees Is Not in Decline — You Just Have Brees Nostalgia
 

Oh, so you're not 100% in agreement with me? You suck. ;-)

That 2-3 record thing is obviously not all Brees, but those costly INTs were contributing factors in those 3 losses. They certainly didn't help matters; no one can deny that.

I just have to watch my 6 on here if I criticize Drew. I love that he's our QB, and believe it or not I'd take him over Manning, Brady, and Rodgers.

Re: Drew Brees Is Not in Decline — You Just Have Brees Nostalgia
 

Brees doesn't play O-line.......he plays QB. :roll: