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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Drew Brees brought his entire offense down around him in front of an unhappy Superdome crowd, throwing three interceptions, including a third quarter one returned for a touchdown that put the Saints in a really bad place. I’m referring, of ...

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Old 10-06-2014, 03:22 PM   #1
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Drew Brees Is Not in Decline — You Just Have Brees Nostalgia

Drew Brees brought his entire offense down around him in front of an unhappy Superdome crowd, throwing three interceptions, including a third quarter one returned for a touchdown that put the Saints in a really bad place. I’m referring, of course, to a 2006 game against Baltimore, in which Brees actually threw two pick-sixes, single-handedly turning a struggle into a beatdown.

Those two interceptions were among the seven pick-sixes Brees threw between 2006 and 2008, tying him with Brett Favre for worst in the league over that period. To be fair, Brees got better between 2009 and 2011 — he improved all the way to fifth-worst, his five interceptions returned for touchdowns one fewer than the number thrown by Mark Sanchez and the same as the number thrown by Matt Hasselbeck, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Chad Henne, Matt Schaub, and Jake Delhomme.

The Brees in decline meme is stronger this season than it has ever been, but it’s not a new thing. If you journey deep enough into big Saints message boards, you can probably find somebody arguing it as far back as 2010, when rumors of Brees’s fading arm strength replaced comments about his once-injured right shoulder acting up as Message Board Guy’s favorite worry.

There are two genres of Brees in decline meme: Brees nostalgia, which is when we aren’t satisfied by modern Brees, because modern Brees can never be as good as idealized past Brees, whom in our heads we see in sepia, probably, with also flicking film reel noises; and Brees ratio analysis, which is when we scientifically sum up our observed number of stupid Brees mistakes and compare that to our observed number of great Brees passes, and decide the difference between the two has gotten way worse lately.

The difference between the two genres is that one denies Brees’s long history of Favreness while one accepts it; otherwise, followers of both genres agree: the big plays just don’t happen like they used to. You know what comes next. Why else would I be writing this post?

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Oh My God get off of it!!!!!!
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Drew Brees is in decline. He's not quite as quick. His arms a lil weaker. OK. So now he's like every other QB in the NFL. He can't do it alone anymore. He needs a run game, protection, reliable weapons and a good D to win.
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With a little better pass protection, threads like this would vanish.
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Drew Brees is in decline. He's not quite as quick. His arms a lil weaker. OK. So now he's like every other QB in the NFL. He can't do it alone anymore. He needs a run game, protection, reliable weapons and a good D to win.
He's not in decline yet, and his arm doesn't look any weaker than it did in 2006.

Stop it.
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Drew Brees is in decline. He's not quite as quick. His arms a lil weaker. OK. So now he's like every other QB in the NFL. He can't do it alone anymore. He needs a run game, protection, reliable weapons and a good D to win.
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Originally Posted by billyt81 View Post
Drew Brees is in decline. He's not quite as quick. His arms a lil weaker. OK. So now he's like every other QB in the NFL. He can't do it alone anymore. He needs a run game, protection, reliable weapons and a good D to win.
Billy, you've made some really good posts in the past.

This ain't one of 'em.
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Blah, blah, blah. We better morph back into the contender we anticipated after the bye week. Including you Brees. 09 Brees needs to be in full effect. And Colston, get your mind right.
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Originally Posted by billyt81 View Post
Drew Brees is in decline. He's not quite as quick. His arms a lil weaker. OK. So now he's like every other QB in the NFL. He can't do it alone anymore. He needs a run game, protection, reliable weapons and a good D to win.
Hey, here's a thought -- maybe if we had spent some money on the O-Line in the off-season our $100M QB would look less threatened than he OCCASIONALLY does.

But, even so, this line of argument continues to be asinine -- and is stinkin' up the joint. Make it go away.
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