Drew Brees Is Not Playing Like Drew Brees

10-07-2014, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by jonnyrotten

schooled? hardly. seems more like you accept mediocrity. get paid like a top 10 player? then play like a top 10 player PERIOD! he gets paid to much to be willing to take "14 out of 32 is better than bad".... wow..... now THAT's a killer argument.

I don't think even a College professor can read what I wrote as accepting mediocrity.

Jack Vegas · 10-07-2014, 08:39 PM

New baby keeping Drew up at night? I know I can't get anything done at home these days. Just sayin'

dam1953 · 10-07-2014, 08:52 PM

Yes, I wish Brees was playing like his old 2009 self. May, or may not happen again. Only time will tell.

What is a fact is:

1-Brees does not have time in the pocket. This has resulted in him making some poor decisions. He needs to throw the ball away rather than forcing a throw into coverage.
2-Receivers are not getting separation. Hill seems to be the only receiver who can play catch and run. All others get almost zero yards after the catch.
3-Our receivers have more drops in the last five games than they usually have in a season.

The Dude · 10-07-2014, 08:59 PM

He made the same dumbass throws in 2012 when Spags was our defensive coordinator and we were the worst D in history.
I do think he tries to do to much and tries to take on all the responsibility. I think he feels like he HAS to get it done because he isn't getting help from the D.
I do think something is wrong though. I don't know if its age, but I think that oblique may still be giving him trouble.
I also think our offensive line has been getting worse and worse since Kromer left and we failed to beef it up via draft or FA.

ScottF · 10-07-2014, 09:08 PM

Brees has always been looked at as the model of consistency, but that is not even close to being true.
He has a ton of career pick sixes, and his TD-Int ratio is much lower than Rodgers, Brady & Manning. With Drew you get a ton of offense, and 3-4 forced throws a game. Those forces have really hurt this year.

ScottF · 10-07-2014, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I also think our offensive line has been getting worse and worse since Kromer left and we failed to beef it up via draft or FA.

We are tied for third for fewest sacks allowed.

our yards per carry is 5.2, with 133 yards rushed per game

Schmohams · 10-07-2014, 09:38 PM

The year we get the run game together Drew seems to struggle. TF is up with that

xan · 10-07-2014, 09:39 PM

lol

WHODATINCA · 10-08-2014, 01:05 AM

Look, if Drew has no pressure and the receivers create separation -- that is a completed pass. This we know. ( Drew Bress <> Christian Ponder ) There is a positive correlation between pressure on the QB and poor pass completion percentage. IMO, the only thing the Drew Brees deserves criticism for is poor judgement when throwing under pressure while poorly anticipating opposing coverages. When he fails to perform in these areas he is not playing like the elite quarterback that we know he can be.

IMO the "in decline" comments are way too early in this balls up f-up of a season to merit much weight. All things influence all things. Just as stellar play of elite QBs can make receivers better -- poor play of receivers can make an elite QB look shi**y. So, can lack of a run game or lack of a defense.

Seems like some on this board need a goat and Drew Brees is wearing that hat today. I imagine he'll be wearing the crown again shortly. I just want to remind you how rare perfection is, in a single NFL game, and in a single NFL season. If we start winning, we'll hear the love songs again ( except from Dude ).

dizzle88 · 10-08-2014, 01:22 AM

We were leading 13-3 when he threw two consecutive interceptions, both resulting in TD's

As bad as the defense has been, there was no need for him to force passes in that situation, he completely gave the bucs the momentum and it could have dropped us to 1-4

10-07-2014, 08:13 PM	#11
Threaded by Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by jonnyrotten schooled? hardly. seems more like you accept mediocrity. get paid like a top 10 player? then play like a top 10 player PERIOD! he gets paid to much to be willing to take "14 out of 32 is better than bad".... wow..... now THAT's a killer argument. I don't think even a College professor can read what I wrote as accepting mediocrity.
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10-07-2014, 08:39 PM	#12
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Drew Brees Is Not Playing Like Drew Brees New baby keeping Drew up at night? I know I can't get anything done at home these days. Just sayin'
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10-07-2014, 08:52 PM	#13
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: Drew Brees Is Not Playing Like Drew Brees Yes, I wish Brees was playing like his old 2009 self. May, or may not happen again. Only time will tell. What is a fact is: 1-Brees does not have time in the pocket. This has resulted in him making some poor decisions. He needs to throw the ball away rather than forcing a throw into coverage. 2-Receivers are not getting separation. Hill seems to be the only receiver who can play catch and run. All others get almost zero yards after the catch. 3-Our receivers have more drops in the last five games than they usually have in a season. WHODATINCA likes this.
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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Drew Brees Is Not Playing Like Drew Brees He made the same dumbass throws in 2012 when Spags was our defensive coordinator and we were the worst D in history. I do think he tries to do to much and tries to take on all the responsibility. I think he feels like he HAS to get it done because he isn't getting help from the D. I do think something is wrong though. I don't know if its age, but I think that oblique may still be giving him trouble. I also think our offensive line has been getting worse and worse since Kromer left and we failed to beef it up via draft or FA. SaintFanInATLHELL, dam1953 and MarchingOn like this.
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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Drew Brees Is Not Playing Like Drew Brees Brees has always been looked at as the model of consistency, but that is not even close to being true. He has a ton of career pick sixes, and his TD-Int ratio is much lower than Rodgers, Brady & Manning. With Drew you get a ton of offense, and 3-4 forced throws a game. Those forces have really hurt this year. SaintFanInATLHELL, MarchingOn and WHODATINCA like this.

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10-07-2014, 09:14 PM	#16
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Drew Brees Is Not Playing Like Drew Brees Originally Posted by The Dude I also think our offensive line has been getting worse and worse since Kromer left and we failed to beef it up via draft or FA. We are tied for third for fewest sacks allowed. our yards per carry is 5.2, with 133 yards rushed per game ikecomp likes this.

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WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: Drew Brees Is Not Playing Like Drew Brees Look, if Drew has no pressure and the receivers create separation -- that is a completed pass. This we know. ( Drew Bress <> Christian Ponder ) There is a positive correlation between pressure on the QB and poor pass completion percentage. IMO, the only thing the Drew Brees deserves criticism for is poor judgement when throwing under pressure while poorly anticipating opposing coverages. When he fails to perform in these areas he is not playing like the elite quarterback that we know he can be. IMO the "in decline" comments are way too early in this balls up f-up of a season to merit much weight. All things influence all things. Just as stellar play of elite QBs can make receivers better -- poor play of receivers can make an elite QB look shi**y. So, can lack of a run game or lack of a defense. Seems like some on this board need a goat and Drew Brees is wearing that hat today. I imagine he'll be wearing the crown again shortly. I just want to remind you how rare perfection is, in a single NFL game, and in a single NFL season. If we start winning, we'll hear the love songs again ( except from Dude ). Danno, ScottF and brees84 like this.
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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,118	Re: Drew Brees Is Not Playing Like Drew Brees We were leading 13-3 when he threw two consecutive interceptions, both resulting in TD's As bad as the defense has been, there was no need for him to force passes in that situation, he completely gave the bucs the momentum and it could have dropped us to 1-4 SaintFanInATLHELL, RailBoss, SaintsBro and 3 others like this.

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