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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Like I said pre contract. He will always miss several games a season. Its how he plays. This is why I had hoped they wouldn't pay him what they did. We are playing huge money to a player that is ...

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Old 10-13-2014, 11:24 AM   #31
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Like I said pre contract. He will always miss several games a season. Its how he plays. This is why I had hoped they wouldn't pay him what they did. We are playing huge money to a player that is only good for 1/3 or 1/4 of the season.
Also wanted more wide receivers via draft or FA. If Colton goes down we aren't left with anyone who is really proven, albeit Colston has not looked great this season.
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Like I said pre contract. He will always miss several games a season. Its how he plays. This is why I had hoped they wouldn't pay him what they did. We are playing huge money to a player that is only good for 1/3 or 1/4 of the season.
Also wanted more wide receivers via draft or FA. If Colton goes down we aren't left with anyone who is really proven, albeit Colston has not looked great this season.
Pretty much only 4 pass catchers I trust this season

Cooks, PT, Watson and Hill

Speaks volumes that two of those are backups and one of them is a 3rd down back.
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I don't think that we are watching the same guy. I've seen Graham plow into guys and drag guys for more yardage. He injured his shoulder driving it into a defender. Why do people continue to call him soft?
I don't think it means "soft" in shying away from hits or running someone over. It means soft in allowing pushy, clingy DBs to nullify him (like the Patriot's Talib last year showed could be done).
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Old 10-13-2014, 01:00 PM   #34
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As others have said, it's a good time for Brees to refocus himself on distributing the ball more to everyone else. I have a feeling there are open guys on certain plays when Brees forces the ball to Graham anyway. We can run a very effective two-TE run-heavy offense with Watson and Hill.
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Like I said pre contract. He will always miss several games a season. Its how he plays. This is why I had hoped they wouldn't pay him what they did. We are playing huge money to a player that is only good for 1/3 or 1/4 of the season.
Also wanted more wide receivers via draft or FA. If Colton goes down we aren't left with anyone who is really proven, albeit Colston has not looked great this season.
You've got to be kidding.

In four years, Graham has only missed two games.

Jimmy Graham Stats - New Orleans Saints - ESPN
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Old 10-13-2014, 01:16 PM   #36
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You've got to be kidding.

In four years, Graham has only missed two games.

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It's The Dude. He is always kidding or being sarcastic.
He's always negative, more like it...
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As others have said, it's a good time for Brees to refocus himself on distributing the ball more to everyone else. I have a feeling there are open guys on certain plays when Brees forces the ball to Graham anyway. We can run a very effective two-TE run-heavy offense with Watson and Hill.
When brees forced the ball to an injured Jimmy Graham 3 times in the red zone, on 2nd down Cooks was wide open in the end zone

That's why I think we can be better offense without Jimmy, because every defensive player knows where the ball is going on 3rd down when he's in there

On a somewhat unrelated note, the rookie QB for the raiders is having a better season than Brees and threw 4 TD's against the chargers top ten D.
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Pretty much only 4 pass catchers I trust this season

Cooks, PT, Watson and Hill

Speaks volumes that two of those are backups and one of them is a 3rd down back.
You've got some extremely high standards.

Graham has caught 34 of 46 targets. That's a 74% reception rate. That's outstanding.

Of the top 20 receivers (yards) this season, only one has a better percentage (and he's a running back)

Jordy Nelson 63%
Antonio Brown 67%
Julio Jones 64%
TY Hilton 68%
Golden Tate 72%
Alshon Jeffery 67%
Demarius Thomas 56%
DeSean Jackson 54%
Emmanuel Sanders 73%
Jeremy Maclinn 45%
Dez Bryant 63%
Delanie Walker 64%
Reggie Wayne 63%
Andre Johnson 63%
Kelvin Benjamin 56%
Julian Edelman 71%
Greg Olsen 64%
Matt Forte 83%

Just curious, is Forte the only guy you'd trust on this list?

Also, there are only two guys on that list that have fewer targets than Graham, Walker and Jackson, so by comparison, it's hard to say the Saints are forcing the ball to Graham.
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You've got some extremely high standards.

Graham has caught 34 of 46 targets. That's a 74% reception rate. That's outstanding.

Of the top 20 receivers (yards) this season, only one has a better percentage (and he's a running back)

Jordy Nelson 63%
Antonio Brown 67%
Julio Jones 64%
TY Hilton 68%
Golden Tate 72%
Alshon Jeffery 67%
Demarius Thomas 56%
DeSean Jackson 54%
Emmanuel Sanders 73%
Jeremy Maclinn 45%
Dez Bryant 63%
Delanie Walker 64%
Reggie Wayne 63%
Andre Johnson 63%
Kelvin Benjamin 56%
Julian Edelman 71%
Greg Olsen 64%
Matt Forte 83%

Just curious, is Forte the only guy you'd trust on this list?

Also, there are only two guys on that list that have fewer targets than Graham, Walker and Jackson, so by comparison, it's hard to say the Saints are forcing the ball to Graham.
Reason I don't trust graham that much is because when the ball isn't perfectly thrown he will give a half hearted effort and either tip it up into the air (which subsequently gets picked off) or just reaches out with one hand and drops it.
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