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SmashMouth 10-14-2014 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 618271)
It is strange that 2 UDFA's that were a bit of a surprise to even make the team are starting ahead of our #2 and #5 draft picks.
If you're Pierre Thomas, is it strange that you beat out a #4 draft pick at RB?

Danno 10-14-2014 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 618277)
If you're Pierre Thomas, is it strange that you beat out a #4 draft pick at RB?
Not at all, it was obvious he was much better than Pittman from day 1 of training camp. It wasn't even close, Pittman was a bust.

But are SJB and Powell busts?

I'm not surprised 2 UDFA's are getting playing time, I'm surprised and disappointed that two draft picks at areas of obvious needs aren't.

SmashMouth 10-14-2014 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 618279)
Not at all, it was obvious he was much better than Pittman from day 1 of training camp. It wasn't even close, Pittman was a bust.

But are SJB and Powell busts?

I'm not surprised 2 UDFA's are getting playing time, I'm surprised and disappointed that two draft picks at areas of obvious needs aren't.
Exactly ... probably TBD in these latest examples.

Utah_Saint 10-14-2014 11:50 AM
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I thought it was a given that SJB was going to be a project when we drafted him. He had the physical ability but lacked NFL technique.

(I could be misremembering things)

Danno 10-14-2014 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 618282)
I thought it was a given that SJB was going to be a project when we drafted him. He had the physical ability but lacked NFL technique.

(I could be misremembering things)
Thats true, its just a bit disappointing that he's seen zero playing time. I would have thought he'd see at least a little playing time in certain packages.

blackangold 10-14-2014 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 618276)
Not to be rude, but how would you know? Have you been going to practices and in meetings or is that just an unproven opinion?
Yes, I have been at every practice and every meeting.

I have the inside info.

FYI Payton gave the games away early. It is all part of his plan, just wait and see.


:)

Utah_Saint 10-14-2014 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 618283)
Thats true, its just a bit disappointing that he's seen zero playing time. I would have thought he'd see at least a little playing time in certain packages.
Maybe when the Saints get way up on somebody they'll put him in. Hasn't been much opportunity for that so far.

hagan714 10-14-2014 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 618279)
But are SJB and Powell busts?
hard to say about SJB. we knew how raw he was.
Powell is all about injuries IMO. well at least i hope that is it. i hope it is not an inability to grasp the playbook

If both do not cut it that is grounds to lock Ryan out of the office on draft day or show him the door

my greatest fear on defense was we were drafting based on upside way to much not so much can the kid stay on the field and can he play football.

these two i can play the wait and see game. but they need to see the field and get some playing time under their belt.

AllSaints 10-14-2014 08:49 PM
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I would start PT the screen game will be crucial this week .... But Reggie will get a td for sure

ScottF 10-14-2014 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 618283)
Thats true, its just a bit disappointing that he's seen zero playing time. I would have thought he'd see at least a little playing time in certain packages.
a couple of weeks (maybe 3) he hasn't even been active, meaning we've gone with 4 corners

TheGambler 10-14-2014 09:45 PM
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Didn't read the article......but just the title alone is sorta funny.

As if that should be earth-shattering news.

The Saints, who haven't won a regular season road game since Macy's was getting ready for a parade last year, going on the road to Detroit.....a team with 2 more wins than the Saints............and yet it's somehow news that the Saints would be underdogs.

To be honest, I think it's disrespectful that Detroit isn't even getting the full 3 point HFA line, last I checked (-2 or - 2 1/2, depending on where you look).

However....Saints will win this one. This is one of those "S--- or get off the pot" moments in the season. They have a brutal schedule going forward, and still have yet to win a road game.....this just sorta seems like the week. I'd hate to see what 2-4 looks like with that stretch of games they're about to have.

SloMotion 10-15-2014 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TheGambler (Post 618390)
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To be honest, I think it's disrespectful that Detroit isn't even getting the full 3 point HFA line, last I checked (-2 or - 2 1/2, depending on where you look).

However....Saints will win this one. This is one of those "S--- or get off the pot" moments in the season. They have a brutal schedule going forward, and still have yet to win a road game.....this just sorta seems like the week. I'd hate to see what 2-4 looks like with that stretch of games they're about to have.
Exactly. Not necessarily disrespectful, but maybe more indicative of exactly where the Lions are at this season ... their early success can be mostly attributed to weak opponents ... we've this before with other teams as well.

This is a very winnable game for the Saints. If I had a nickel for every time the Lions lost a game they shoulda' won (and they should win this one if we are to believe the hype) in front of the home crowd, I'd be owning the Lions franchise right about now, ;) ... bet.

NOLA54 10-15-2014 07:49 PM
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Let' hope Matt Pratar doesn't beat us with his leg & prove why we should have gone after him.

Utah_Saint 10-15-2014 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by NOLA54 (Post 618597)
Let' hope Matt Pratar doesn't beat us with his leg & prove why we should have gone after him.
If he has another game like last week, it'll be Detroit fans beating Prater with his own leg.

SmashMouth 10-16-2014 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 618420)
Exactly. Not necessarily disrespectful, but maybe more indicative of exactly where the Lions are at this season ... their early success can be mostly attributed to weak opponents ... we've this before with other teams as well.

This is a very winnable game for the Saints. If I had a nickel for every time the Lions lost a game they shoulda' won (and they should win this one if we are to believe the hype) in front of the home crowd, I'd be owning the Lions franchise right about now, ;) ... bet.
You'd look good and probably do better as the Detroit Lions' owner. :p

SloMotion 10-16-2014 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 618603)
If he has another game like last week, it'll be Detroit fans beating Prater with his own leg.
:roflmao: ... yep, he probably shouldn't start "house-hunting" too seriously just yet, :lol:.

SloMotion 10-16-2014 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 618618)
You'd look good and probably do better as the Detroit Lions' owner. :p
... and there'd finally be professional cheerleaders at the home games! ;) :lol:

SmashMouth 10-16-2014 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 618634)
:roflmao: ... yep, he probably shouldn't start "house-hunting" too seriously just yet, :lol:.
But isn't real estate cheap in certain markets? :clown:

SloMotion 10-16-2014 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 618662)
But isn't real estate cheap in certain markets? :clown:
Oh yeah, put both my kids & my ex-wife in houses & if I play my cards right, might own half the block I live on when it's all said & done, :lol: ... not too many professional athletes care to live in this neighborhood though, ;).

|Mitch| 10-16-2014 04:25 PM
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Graham "may" return this week... That'll help if he does: Jimmy Graham returns; limited in Saints practice - NFL.com

Rugby Saint II 10-16-2014 05:20 PM
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That's right...........we are flying under the radar baby! Oh yeah, there are good things ahead for us.:bng:

SloMotion 10-17-2014 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 618753)
That's right...........we are flying under the radar baby! Oh yeah, there are good things ahead for us.:bng:
Oh ... I get it now, :lol: ... you guys say you're gonna' sit Graham, so we sit Calvin & then you spring Graham on the field just before game time ... :lol:.

billyt81 10-17-2014 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 618097)
I don't mean this as an attack...on you or on Reggie, but he is not now nor was he ever nor will he ever be Marshal Faulk. We all desperately wanted him to be. He wasn't and he isn't and won't ever be.
Their career YPC averages are equal at 4.3ypc and Reggie is definetely a slightly better receiver.

saintfan 10-17-2014 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 618812)
Oh ... I get it now, :lol: ... you guys say you're gonna' sit Graham, so we sit Calvin & then you spring Graham on the field just before game time ... :lol:.
Wouldn't surprise me if they did just that to decoy the Lions' defense for a series or two before they figure out he's just running routes.

Payton be tricky.

|Mitch| 10-17-2014 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 618908)
Wouldn't surprise me if they did just that to decoy the Lions' defense for a series or two before they figure out he's just running routes.

Payton be tricky.
Kind of like on Josh Hills long touchdown pass; Graham ran the out and cleared the safety and corner, Hill hit the seam for the easy touchdown...

Danno 10-17-2014 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by billyt81 (Post 618901)
Their career YPC averages are equal at 4.3ypc and Reggie is definetely a slightly better receiver.
That surprised me. Never would have guessed that.

ScottF 10-18-2014 05:16 PM
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Line is down to 1.5 or 2 with most books already ---->
always follow the late $$$$$!!


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