Position Spotlight: Secondary

NOLA54 · 10-15-2014, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Dennis Allen is available...

I thought coach & Loomis would scoop him up when he was released by the raiders.

Mardigras9 · 10-15-2014, 09:32 AM

I just can't hang a ton of blame on the DB's. With almost no pressure from the front, they are just getting abused by every QB we face.

They do share in the overall bad-D, don't get me wrong, but they will continue to get picked apart by ANY NFL QB who has an established runner and no pressure.

Cruize · 10-15-2014, 10:53 AM

The defense as a whole, including the coaching, gets a F. The Saints have some talent. It's not showing up on Sundays. I think they're thinking too much instead of keeping it simple and playing. The zone scheme isn't working. Players not fitting the scheme and certainly not executing it. Lewis is a solid #2 CB in the NFL. White is average at best. Dixon brings energy and effort. If the game ever slows down for him, he has the potential to be a solid #2. I loved Baptiste and wanted the Saints to draft him. For whatever reason, the staff does not think he's ready. Vaccaro is a playmaker. The staff allowed him and put him in position to make plays last year. This year they're asking him to play zone. Simply not his strength. Bush is a high effort over-acheiver. Nothing special. The only guy to make plays in the preseason, and one of the smartest guys on the team, Sunseri, is only seeing the field on special teams. I don't get it. He needs to assume Vaccaro's role last year or be playing safety and letting Vaccaro resume his assignments from last year. He needs to be on the field.

NOLA54 · 10-15-2014, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

The defense as a whole, including the coaching, gets a F. The Saints have some talent. It's not showing up on Sundays. I think they're thinking too much instead of keeping it simple and playing. The zone scheme isn't working. Players not fitting the scheme and certainly not executing it. Lewis is a solid #2 CB in the NFL. White is average at best. Dixon brings energy and effort. If the game ever slows down for him, he has the potential to be a solid #2. I loved Baptiste and wanted the Saints to draft him. For whatever reason, the staff does not think he's ready. Vaccaro is a playmaker. The staff allowed him and put him in position to make plays last year. This year they're asking him to play zone. Simply not his strength. Bush is a high effort over-acheiver. Nothing special. The only guy to make plays in the preseason, and one of the smartest guys on the team, Sunseri, is only seeing the field on special teams. I don't get it. He needs to assume Vaccaro's role last year or be playing safety and letting Vaccaro resume his assignments from last year. He needs to be on the field.

Let everyone play what they are good at. If they are not good at anything sit 'em.

saintsfan1976 · 10-15-2014, 10:57 AM

I think it's safe to hang blame on all aspects of the defense - players, coaches, scheme, motivation (greenbriar).

hagan714 · 10-15-2014, 01:57 PM

The blame begins and ends at Rob's door. this is his system and he made all the moves over the past two years.

brees84 · 10-15-2014, 03:32 PM

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dizzle88 · 10-15-2014, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by brees84

https://twitter.com/UnderhillAdv/sta...79760060846080

Well he was certainly a better jack of all trades than he is a safety at the moment.

K Major · 10-15-2014, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by brees84

https://twitter.com/UnderhillAdv/sta...79760060846080

No surprise to read this. I just stated in another post that Kenny V needs to develop at one role, not multiple. The Big Lebowski has KV wearing too many hats and its not working.

Danno · 10-15-2014, 05:29 PM

In the box safety... reference Troy Polamalu.

10-15-2014, 07:36 PM	#1
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Position Spotlight: Secondary Originally Posted by jeanpierre Dennis Allen is available... I thought coach & Loomis would scoop him up when he was released by the raiders.

10-15-2014, 10:53 AM	#3
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Position Spotlight: Secondary The defense as a whole, including the coaching, gets a F. The Saints have some talent. It's not showing up on Sundays. I think they're thinking too much instead of keeping it simple and playing. The zone scheme isn't working. Players not fitting the scheme and certainly not executing it. Lewis is a solid #2 CB in the NFL. White is average at best. Dixon brings energy and effort. If the game ever slows down for him, he has the potential to be a solid #2. I loved Baptiste and wanted the Saints to draft him. For whatever reason, the staff does not think he's ready. Vaccaro is a playmaker. The staff allowed him and put him in position to make plays last year. This year they're asking him to play zone. Simply not his strength. Bush is a high effort over-acheiver. Nothing special. The only guy to make plays in the preseason, and one of the smartest guys on the team, Sunseri, is only seeing the field on special teams. I don't get it. He needs to assume Vaccaro's role last year or be playing safety and letting Vaccaro resume his assignments from last year. He needs to be on the field.
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10-15-2014, 07:38 PM	#4
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Position Spotlight: Secondary Originally Posted by Cruize The defense as a whole, including the coaching, gets a F. The Saints have some talent. It's not showing up on Sundays. I think they're thinking too much instead of keeping it simple and playing. The zone scheme isn't working. Players not fitting the scheme and certainly not executing it. Lewis is a solid #2 CB in the NFL. White is average at best. Dixon brings energy and effort. If the game ever slows down for him, he has the potential to be a solid #2. I loved Baptiste and wanted the Saints to draft him. For whatever reason, the staff does not think he's ready. Vaccaro is a playmaker. The staff allowed him and put him in position to make plays last year. This year they're asking him to play zone. Simply not his strength. Bush is a high effort over-acheiver. Nothing special. The only guy to make plays in the preseason, and one of the smartest guys on the team, Sunseri, is only seeing the field on special teams. I don't get it. He needs to assume Vaccaro's role last year or be playing safety and letting Vaccaro resume his assignments from last year. He needs to be on the field. Let everyone play what they are good at. If they are not good at anything sit 'em.

10-15-2014, 10:57 AM	#5
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,974 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Position Spotlight: Secondary I think it's safe to hang blame on all aspects of the defense - players, coaches, scheme, motivation (greenbriar). hagan714 and jeanpierre like this.

10-15-2014, 01:57 PM	#6
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Position Spotlight: Secondary The blame begins and ends at Rob's door. this is his system and he made all the moves over the past two years.

10-15-2014, 09:32 AM	#2
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Position Spotlight: Secondary I just can't hang a ton of blame on the DB's. With almost no pressure from the front, they are just getting abused by every QB we face. They do share in the overall bad-D, don't get me wrong, but they will continue to get picked apart by ANY NFL QB who has an established runner and no pressure. Danno likes this.

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10-15-2014, 04:16 PM	#8
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Position Spotlight: Secondary Originally Posted by brees84 https://twitter.com/UnderhillAdv/sta...79760060846080 Well he was certainly a better jack of all trades than he is a safety at the moment.

10-15-2014, 08:31 PM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,740 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Position Spotlight: Secondary Originally Posted by brees84 https://twitter.com/UnderhillAdv/sta...79760060846080 No surprise to read this. I just stated in another post that Kenny V needs to develop at one role, not multiple. The Big Lebowski has KV wearing too many hats and its not working.

10-15-2014, 05:29 PM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Re: Position Spotlight: Secondary In the box safety... reference Troy Polamalu. hagan714 and saintsfan1976 like this.

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