Saints / Lions Injury Report

|Mitch| · 10-17-2014, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Whats worse than Brees over targeting JG?

I don't all get this over targeting talk, Cooks has 2 less catches than Graham. If he is over targeting Graham, then I guess Cooks is over targeted too? I wonder if y'all still complain about over targeting when he catches a touchdown?

Jimmy Graham 34 376 11.1 23 3
Brandin Cooks 32 255 8 32 1
Pierre Thomas 22 187 8.5 19 1
Marques Colston 15 248 16.5 57 1
Travaris Cadet 10 83 8.3 31 1
Kenny Stills 10 141 14.1 46 0
Benjamin Watson 9 64 7.1 13 0
Josh Hill 7 112 16 37 2
Robert Meachem 4 60 15 23 0
Mark Ingram 4 22 5.5 13 0
Khiry Robinson 3 26 8.7 12 0

blackangold · 10-17-2014, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I don't all get this over targeting talk, Cooks has 2 less catches than Graham. If he is over targeting Graham, then I guess Cooks is over targeted too? I wonder if y'all still complain about over targeting when he catches a touchdown?

Jimmy Graham 34 376 11.1 23 3
Brandin Cooks 32 255 8 32 1
Pierre Thomas 22 187 8.5 19 1
Marques Colston 15 248 16.5 57 1
Travaris Cadet 10 83 8.3 31 1
Kenny Stills 10 141 14.1 46 0
Benjamin Watson 9 64 7.1 13 0
Josh Hill 7 112 16 37 2
Robert Meachem 4 60 15 23 0
Mark Ingram 4 22 5.5 13 0
Khiry Robinson 3 26 8.7 12 0

Why would you use the receptions stat to base an argument?

JG has an average of 9.4 targets per game (keep in mind he missed 3 QTRs).

Cooks has an average of 8.2 targets per game and Colston has an average of 7.3.

|Mitch| · 10-17-2014, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Why would you use the receptions stat to base an argument?

because the receptions stat correlates with the "targeting" argument...

AsylumGuido · 10-17-2014, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

because the receptions stat correlates with the "targeting" argument...

Yup, same ratio damn near.

|Mitch| · 10-17-2014, 06:59 PM

Johnson, an undrafted free agent from Tennessee, could retain his spot on the roster. Payton said the Saints have carried two fullbacks before and Johnson's ability to play on virtually every special teams unit is valuable.

|Mitch| · 10-17-2014, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

also this stat is misleading because drew does a lot of dinks and dump off passes to cooks.

what's that matter, when he is targeted on these "dinks" and dump-offs? Stats are mis-leading when they don't back up somebodies argument, just sayin'

Danno · 10-17-2014, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

what's that matter, when he is targeted on these "dinks" and dump-offs? Stats are mis-leading when they don't back up somebodies argument, just sayin'

True, and I don't see Cooks as the "dump off" guy at all. Most of his catches are because the play was designed to target him.

10-17-2014, 04:44 PM	#1
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints / Lions Injury Report Originally Posted by blackangold Whats worse than Brees over targeting JG? I don't all get this over targeting talk, Cooks has 2 less catches than Graham. If he is over targeting Graham, then I guess Cooks is over targeted too? I wonder if y'all still complain about over targeting when he catches a touchdown? Jimmy Graham 34 376 11.1 23 3 Brandin Cooks 32 255 8 32 1 Pierre Thomas 22 187 8.5 19 1 Marques Colston 15 248 16.5 57 1 Travaris Cadet 10 83 8.3 31 1 Kenny Stills 10 141 14.1 46 0 Benjamin Watson 9 64 7.1 13 0 Josh Hill 7 112 16 37 2 Robert Meachem 4 60 15 23 0 Mark Ingram 4 22 5.5 13 0 Khiry Robinson 3 26 8.7 12 0 ScottF, saintsfan1976 and Utah_Saint like this.

10-17-2014, 05:54 PM	#2
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints / Lions Injury Report Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| I don't all get this over targeting talk, Cooks has 2 less catches than Graham. If he is over targeting Graham, then I guess Cooks is over targeted too? I wonder if y'all still complain about over targeting when he catches a touchdown? Jimmy Graham 34 376 11.1 23 3 Brandin Cooks 32 255 8 32 1 Pierre Thomas 22 187 8.5 19 1 Marques Colston 15 248 16.5 57 1 Travaris Cadet 10 83 8.3 31 1 Kenny Stills 10 141 14.1 46 0 Benjamin Watson 9 64 7.1 13 0 Josh Hill 7 112 16 37 2 Robert Meachem 4 60 15 23 0 Mark Ingram 4 22 5.5 13 0 Khiry Robinson 3 26 8.7 12 0 Why would you use the receptions stat to base an argument? JG has an average of 9.4 targets per game (keep in mind he missed 3 QTRs). Cooks has an average of 8.2 targets per game and Colston has an average of 7.3.

10-17-2014, 06:38 PM	#3
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints / Lions Injury Report Originally Posted by blackangold Why would you use the receptions stat to base an argument? because the receptions stat correlates with the "targeting" argument...

10-17-2014, 06:43 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,871	Re: Saints / Lions Injury Report Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| because the receptions stat correlates with the "targeting" argument... Yup, same ratio damn near.

10-17-2014, 06:59 PM	#5
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints / Lions Injury Report Twitter Johnson, an undrafted free agent from Tennessee, could retain his spot on the roster. Payton said the Saints have carried two fullbacks before and Johnson's ability to play on virtually every special teams unit is valuable.
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10-17-2014, 04:57 PM	#6
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints / Lions Injury Report Originally Posted by teddybarexxx also this stat is misleading because drew does a lot of dinks and dump off passes to cooks. what's that matter, when he is targeted on these "dinks" and dump-offs? Stats are mis-leading when they don't back up somebodies argument, just sayin' AsylumGuido likes this.

10-17-2014, 05:10 PM	#7
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Saints / Lions Injury Report Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| what's that matter, when he is targeted on these "dinks" and dump-offs? Stats are mis-leading when they don't back up somebodies argument, just sayin' True, and I don't see Cooks as the "dump off" guy at all. Most of his catches are because the play was designed to target him. ScottF and AsylumGuido like this.

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