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Danno 10-19-2014 04:27 PM

Re: Officiating is why the Lions won this game.
 
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Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 619577)
uh yeah it is your bad. That was PI all day. Blame Cory White not me

That was Raphael Bush, not White

nola_swammi 10-19-2014 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 619591)
That was Raphael Bush, not White

I think he referring to that 73 yard td. I won't be surprise if P Robinson be activated next game

dizzle88 10-19-2014 04:40 PM

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Kenny Vaccaro missed so many tackles again

Corey white made the first mistake but Kenny could have tackled Tate for an 8 yard gain, but once again he let Tate juke and couldn't catch up

The team is a complete embarrassment, thank god I didn't waste my money coming to new Orleans this year

blackangold 10-19-2014 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 619604)
Kenny Vaccaro missed so many tackles again

Corey white made the first mistake but Kenny could have tackled Tate for an 8 yard gain, but once again he let Tate juke and couldn't catch up

The team is a complete embarrassment, thank god I didn't waste my money coming to new Orleans this year

Thinking the same thing. A few weeks ago I almost bought tickets to this upcoming game against the pack. I would have had a great time in NOLA no doubt but I would rather visit and not blow money on going to the game.

halloween 65 10-19-2014 04:46 PM

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We are a mess on both sides of the ball, in my opionion the D needs the most help. I don't expect this mess gets fixed anytime soon. I hate to lose as much if not more than anyone on this site but blowing a game we had total contol of for as long as we controlled it I would blame the coaches the most, then the players for not closing out. We deserved to lose because we could not close out.

darksoul35 10-19-2014 04:47 PM

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There is no way that is on Kenny. White blew that long one and he gave up the go ahead TD pass to lose the game. This one is on Corey and Drew for forcing that pass. Regardless its a team game and I will still watch but our team sucks.

VegasSaint9 10-19-2014 04:57 PM

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Toon might be an even bigger idiot. But meachem is pretty awful.

NOLA54 10-19-2014 05:10 PM

Re: Officiating is why the Lions won this game.
 
Screw the officiating. That is NOT why we lost. We lost because we could not score a TD in the second half & our QB gave up a pick with 2+ mins remaining in the game.

Mr.Riaton 10-19-2014 05:26 PM

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All you guys have good points, but to say that officiating had nothing to do with the loss is a one sided veiw. We may have not played great, but we played a lot better than we have been. We should have won that game and even though we made our share of mistakes, the bad calls at critical moments absolutely hurt us.

nola_swammi 10-19-2014 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NOLA54 (Post 619619)
Screw the officiating. That is NOT why we lost. We lost because we could not score a TD in the second half & our QB gave up a pick with 2+ mins remaining in the game.

Instead of repeating it, I just copy and paste for you so call fans:


A lot of you fans need to go to Atlanta, if you couldn't see that officiating cause the result of the game then you need to watch your intake on alcohol, the pi against bush wasn't the only bad call but the one on the rookie, the non calls on lions defense, the roughing the qb on 3rd down by cam. This game was total bs. If I am going to be critical and down my team, I am datum well going to stand up for them when it was obvious they were cheated. You people who blaming Bree or the coaching staff, I just want to know when have you seen the perfect game? Mistake gonna be made, but a great team overcome them, but how do you suppose to overcome them if the officials are against you? REAL SAINTS FAN STAND UP!!!!

nola_swammi 10-19-2014 05:37 PM

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I repeated cause my question wasn't answered. You say we didn't score in the second half conclude you're one of the ones blinded by your tears. If you say we couldn't score on last possession then my argument is how do you score if your receivers are held or pi, you might say ref don't try to be the outcome of the game, then I ask why did they call pi with less than 2 minutes in the game on Bush on a 4th down?

Rell&Gold 10-19-2014 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 619527)
you guys realize Brees went 0-10 on his last 10 throws... oh he had the pick too so maybe that counts...

Brees Brees Brees.... I grow tired of you. As a Saints fan I am used to awful QB play but Brees you are by far the most disappointing this season.

Ugh, did you see EVERY offensive linemen get beat like a drum on those last 11 drop backs you all do realize Brees makes this o-line look better than what it is by stepping up and throwing the ball away or trying to extend the play? That throw to Colston wasn't needed but it was there if Colston comes underneath instead fading over Glover Quinn it's a great catch and throw nobody was screaming Brees sucks when his QBR was 133.? In the 3rd up until 4th as look at Dez Bryant Steve Smith Demarius Thomas Antonio Brown they go get the ball they don't sit and wait on a pizza delivery the refs were choosing this game that P.I on 4th-5 was BS💩 and a lot others

saintsfan1976 10-20-2014 06:58 AM

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Rafael grab's his hand. It's a PI call.

https://vine.co/v/ObrvAAhFuzg/embed

dizzle88 10-20-2014 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 619806)
Rafael grab's his hand. It's a PI call.

https://vine.co/v/ObrvAAhFuzg/embed

Exactly, that call was correct

Rafael did interfere while the ball was in the air.

saintsfan1976 10-20-2014 07:20 AM

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Sad thing is; it wasn't even necessary. Reggie had just about given up....

Rell&Gold 10-20-2014 08:40 AM

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I could've sworn the db had 5 yards the work with but ok, and if that's PI they missed at least 10 other calls

Rell&Gold 10-20-2014 08:43 AM

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It's called consistency you can't call a game one way for one team and switch up with the other call IDC what nobody says that was a good play R.Bush sniffed that play out early

saintsfan1976 10-20-2014 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 619826)
It's called consistency you can't call a game one way for one team and switch up with the other call IDC what nobody says that was a good play R.Bush sniffed that play out early

Did you watch the clip? Rafael was clearly holding Reggie's hand from making an attempt to catch.

SaintsBro 10-20-2014 09:23 AM

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The thing about the refs is that if you are playing good ball and have good form, the refs will GIVE you all the calls you need. If you are sloppy, half-**ed and look like garbage out there, then the refs will tell you to talk to the hand, all day long. The way to beat the refs is to be the better team of the two. Back in the days when the Saints were really rolling, the refs would give them all kinds of favorable calls. Darren Sharper pick 6 against the Dolphins where he fumbled the ball at the goal line. The two point conversion in the Super Bowl. Jimmy Graham made a huge catch in a Falcons game one time that wasn't really a catch, he used the ground to cradle it. I could go on and on.

nola_swammi 10-20-2014 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 619806)
Rafael grab's his hand. It's a PI call.

https://vine.co/v/ObrvAAhFuzg/embed

At that angle it's hard to see if the ball is surpass Reggie reach before Raphael wrap his right arm around Reggie. At another angle you will see that the ball had surpass Reggie

jonnyrotten 10-20-2014 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 619836)
The thing about the refs is that if you are playing good ball and have good form, the refs will GIVE you all the calls you need. If you are sloppy, half-**ed and look like garbage out there, then the refs will tell you to talk to the hand, all day long. The way to beat the refs is to be the better team of the two. Back in the days when the Saints were really rolling, the refs would give them all kinds of favorable calls. Darren Sharper pick 6 against the Dolphins where he fumbled the ball at the goal line. The two point conversion in the Super Bowl. Jimmy Graham made a huge catch in a Falcons game one time that wasn't really a catch, he used the ground to cradle it. I could go on and on.

The Lance Moore two point conversion was good, but i agree on the other examples....

brees84 10-20-2014 11:53 AM

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UK_WhoDat 10-20-2014 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 619505)
The Goodwin injury hurt, a lot. They started getting a lot of pressure

The Goodwin injuries (plural) was massive. He was coming into the game with one already and it got worse.
Then add the offensive personnel who were on the field but already carrying injuries and got new one: Graham, Thomas, Stills.
By game end, there were few offensive weapons who want to touch the ball.

dizzle88 10-20-2014 02:08 PM

Re: Officiating is why the Lions won this game.
 
The air made Khiry Robinson fumble, that hurt our momentum a little, we had a good drive going

The Dude 10-20-2014 03:00 PM

Re: Officiating is why the Lions won this game.
 
Cannot blame the refs. They were calling some tick tacky **** on both teams. We got away with one on that first TD I believe it was. Refs didnt let the Lions Offense back in the game with 5 minutes left on the clock. Refs didnt cause Drew to throw a pick. there is plenty of blame to go around but you cant blame the refs.
In all my years of watching football I can only recall one game where I truely believe blaming the refs was warranted, that game was the game against the Patriots last year.

xan 10-20-2014 03:55 PM

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You're all wrong.

It's Obama's fault.

saintfan 10-20-2014 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by xan (Post 619969)
You're all wrong.

It's Obama's fault.

Well duh...

nola_swammi 10-20-2014 07:59 PM

Re: Officiating is why the Lions won this game.
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 619962)
Cannot blame the refs. They were calling some tick tacky **** on both teams. We got away with one on that first TD I believe it was. Refs didnt let the Lions Offense back in the game with 5 minutes left on the clock. Refs didnt cause Drew to throw a pick. there is plenty of blame to go around but you cant blame the refs.
In all my years of watching football I can only recall one game where I truely believe blaming the refs was warranted, that game was the game against the Patriots last year.

Like I said before, one bad play by Drew is irrelevant, if the refs was doing their job, drew wouldn't be in a situation to throw that interceptions. After the saints scored in the beginning of the 3rd quarter the refs turn up the flags on the saints on both end off/def & let Detroit practically do anything they want. People want to find reasons on why we lost, then do some investigation on your own and you will see the refs throwing flags on Colston, Lelito, & Bush was clear B.S.

Mr.Riaton 10-20-2014 09:34 PM

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The facemask penalty on PT...I don't know if I recall seeing that penalty called before. Usually its on the defense. The refs might have been calling bad for both teams, but it sure seemed to happen to us at critical times in the game.

dizzle88 10-21-2014 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 620021)
Like I said before, one bad play by Drew is irrelevant, if the refs was doing their job, drew wouldn't be in a situation to throw that interceptions. After the saints scored in the beginning of the 3rd quarter the refs turn up the flags on the saints on both end off/def & let Detroit practically do anything they want. People want to find reasons on why we lost, then do some investigation on your own and you will see the refs throwing flags on Colston, Lelito, & Bush was clear B.S.

The colston and lelito ones were wrong, but Rafael bush had hold of Reggie's hand when the ball was in the air, unfortunately that was PI and was the correct call

The sad part is, Reggie was not going to get that pass, Rafael just had to screw up anyway .

Cruize 10-21-2014 09:19 AM

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A definite deciding factor. Sad. Even in that 1 in 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 day when the calls go the Saints way.

blackangold 10-21-2014 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by xan (Post 619969)
You're all wrong.

It's Obama's fault.

Wait I thought it was Bush's fault...

Mardigras9 10-21-2014 10:30 AM

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The Bush flag was suspect, no doubt. Mistakes lost this game though, not refs.

Danno 10-21-2014 12:15 PM

Re: Officiating is why the Lions won this game.
 
The PI call against Bush was correct. The two non-calls for the same thing on our next possession is where we got screwed.

st thomas 10-22-2014 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan403 (Post 619498)
Is that a serious statement? Even if you go 3-0 and punt you're still forcing them to burn time outs, even if you drop the back in the behind the line you're taking time off the clock.

even if you get 1.5 to 2 yds a carry it would still set up a more manageable
4th down. payton has a serious problem with his ego to just pass the dam thing 24-7.

fanfrom67 10-22-2014 07:21 PM

Re: Officiating is why the Lions won this game.
 
Here a breakdown on 2 bad calls , that had major impact
Breaking down the call: Were the Lions bailed out by the refs? - Pride Of Detroit

Utah_Saint 10-22-2014 11:01 PM

Re: Officiating is why the Lions won this game.
 
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Originally Posted by fanfrom67 (Post 620496)
Here a breakdown on 2 bad calls , that had major impact
Breaking down the call: Were the Lions bailed out by the refs? - Pride Of Detroit

Nice write up. Thanks for posting.

Jamessr 10-23-2014 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 619580)
Didn't panthers lose? I think you in the wrong forum, go do your whining on your panthers players there

I'm kind of curious about this responce.
We're cheering for the same team and yet you offer one of the worst comebacks/insults ever. Why on earth would you suggest I go over to the panthers forums? Are you an idiot?
Just because I have a different opinion from yours doesn't mean I like my team any less than you do. It's called "grown ups" speaking and from your responce maybe you should keep quiet when it's taking place.

brees84 10-23-2014 09:51 PM

Re: Officiating is why the Lions won this game.
 
Anyone watching Denver game? There were half a dozen "Rafael Bush plays" and no flags.

K Major 10-23-2014 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 620662)
Anyone watching Denver game? There were half a dozen "Rafael Bush plays" and no flags.

Yeah but the difference in Denver is that they know how to FINISH.
The foot stays on the throat. Never assume the game is in hand.


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