What the Lions loss means

Barry from MS · 10-19-2014, 05:42 PM

It means we need to win a WHOLE bunch of games to climb out of this 2-4 hole.

It means we need a rookie(s) to step up and make this team better. I honestly don't recall the last pass over 20 yards intended for Cooks. Isn't this dude one of the fastest in the NFL? Did he all of a sudden lose his speed? Get his butt down the field.

Couldn't Sunseri offer a spark in the secondary? He is a smart, physical, sure-tackling, fast play-maker...I like smart and sure-tackling. Our secondary is too dumb and too lost more than it needs to be (see 73 yard Taterhead Tate TD w/less than 4 minutes in the game).

We can't buy a pass rush to close out a game, or get to the QB with just 4 without blitzing. Get Powell in there, and tell him to get to the QB.

We need a spark. Get Cooks vertical, get Sunseri back there to make this dumb secondary smarter, and get Powell in there to get to the freakin QB. Something.

Ideas that could work, but could also blow up in our face. But isn't a 2-4 record replicate a Wile E. Coyote series of events? Tired of seeing this team s--t the bed with underachieving morons.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 10-20-2014, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

It means we need to win a WHOLE bunch of games to climb out of this 2-4 hole.

Actually it doesn't. At this point there's only one available playoff slot (PLAYOFFS??!!, yes playoffs...) available to the Saints, the #4 seed. The top teams in the other three divisions are likely not to be caught.

The NFC South flat sucks this season. Every team is below .500 and the Saints are 1 game out of first place in the division. Literally by next Friday they can be leading the division at 4-4.

So nothing should change about the objective: win the next game.

What needs to change is the method.

It means we need a rookie(s) to step up and make this team better. I honestly don't recall the last pass over 20 yards intended for Cooks. Isn't this dude one of the fastest in the NFL? Did he all of a sudden lose his speed? Get his butt down the field.

Couldn't Sunseri offer a spark in the secondary? He is a smart, physical, sure-tackling, fast play-maker...I like smart and sure-tackling. Our secondary is too dumb and too lost more than it needs to be (see 73 yard Taterhead Tate TD w/less than 4 minutes in the game).

I don't see this as the rookies fault. Every loss this team has is because of mistakes, Interceptions, fumbles, blown assignments, missed tackles, and penalties. And it's not the rookies making these mistakes.

We can't buy a pass rush to close out a game, or get to the QB with just 4 without blitzing. Get Powell in there, and tell him to get to the QB.

Now this I agree with. Even an average NFL QB can be sucessful when they have all the time in the world to throw the ball.

We need a spark. Get Cooks vertical, get Sunseri back there to make this dumb secondary smarter, and get Powell in there to get to the freakin QB. Something.

Ideas that could work, but could also blow up in our face. But isn't a 2-4 record replicate a Wile E. Coyote series of events? Tired of seeing this team s--t the bed with underachieving morons.

A spark isn't going to cover up the mistakes. 3 of the 4 losses, and honestly 1 of the 2 wins were mistake filled games.

SFIAH

Barry from MS · 10-20-2014, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I don't see this as the rookies fault. Every loss this team has is because of mistakes, Interceptions, fumbles, blown assignments, missed tackles, and penalties. And it's not the rookies making these mistakes. SFIAH

No, no, no, no...that's not what I meant. My bad.

What I feebly was trying to say was that the coaches should try and light a spark by putting a rookie(s) into a position to succeed. Getting Cooks down field running 10-30 yard routes instead of those line-of-scrimmage plays that are getting blown up more times than not or some dinky 5-10 yard route.

Or getting Sunseri into the secondary mix...great coverage by him in the end zone, by the way. Very encouraged by this.

But, no, I am definitely not pinning any blame on our rookies. My apologies with my not grasping the English language like I should. BFM

Utah_Saint · 10-20-2014, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Getting Cooks down field running 10-30 yard routes instead of those line-of-scrimmage plays that are getting blown up more times than not or some dinky 5-10 yard route.

I was just discussing this with a buddy yesterday. Why haven't they sent Cooks on more deep routes where he can get up a head of steam and take advantage of his speed?

10-19-2014, 05:42 PM	#1
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: What the Lions loss means It means we need to win a *WHOLE* bunch of games to climb out of this 2-4 hole. It means we need a rookie(s) to step up and make this team better. I honestly don't recall the last pass over 20 yards intended for Cooks. Isn't this dude one of the fastest in the NFL? Did he all of a sudden lose his speed? Get his butt down the field. Couldn't Sunseri offer a spark in the secondary? He is a smart, physical, sure-tackling, fast play-maker...I like smart and sure-tackling. Our secondary is too dumb and too lost more than it needs to be (see 73 yard Taterhead Tate TD w/less than 4 minutes in the game). We can't buy a pass rush to close out a game, or get to the QB with just 4 without blitzing. Get Powell in there, and tell him to get to the QB. We need a spark. Get Cooks vertical, get Sunseri back there to make this dumb secondary smarter, and get Powell in there to get to the freakin QB. Something. Ideas that could work, but could also blow up in our face. But isn't a 2-4 record replicate a Wile E. Coyote series of events? Tired of seeing this team s--t the bed with underachieving morons.
	"I'd far rather be happy than right any day" ~ Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy "Honor: if you need it defined, you don't have it" ~ Ron Swanson

10-20-2014, 11:15 AM	#2
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,789	Re: What the Lions loss means Originally Posted by Barry from MS It means we need to win a *WHOLE* bunch of games to climb out of this 2-4 hole. Actually it doesn't. At this point there's only one available playoff slot (PLAYOFFS??!!, yes playoffs...) available to the Saints, the #4 seed. The top teams in the other three divisions are likely not to be caught. The NFC South flat sucks this season. Every team is below .500 and the Saints are 1 game out of first place in the division. Literally by next Friday they can be leading the division at 4-4. So nothing should change about the objective: win the next game. What needs to change is the method. It means we need a rookie(s) to step up and make this team better. I honestly don't recall the last pass over 20 yards intended for Cooks. Isn't this dude one of the fastest in the NFL? Did he all of a sudden lose his speed? Get his butt down the field. Couldn't Sunseri offer a spark in the secondary? He is a smart, physical, sure-tackling, fast play-maker...I like smart and sure-tackling. Our secondary is too dumb and too lost more than it needs to be (see 73 yard Taterhead Tate TD w/less than 4 minutes in the game). I don't see this as the rookies fault. Every loss this team has is because of mistakes, Interceptions, fumbles, blown assignments, missed tackles, and penalties. And it's not the rookies making these mistakes. We can't buy a pass rush to close out a game, or get to the QB with just 4 without blitzing. Get Powell in there, and tell him to get to the QB. Now this I agree with. Even an average NFL QB can be sucessful when they have all the time in the world to throw the ball. We need a spark. Get Cooks vertical, get Sunseri back there to make this dumb secondary smarter, and get Powell in there to get to the freakin QB. Something. Ideas that could work, but could also blow up in our face. But isn't a 2-4 record replicate a Wile E. Coyote series of events? Tired of seeing this team s--t the bed with underachieving morons. A spark isn't going to cover up the mistakes. 3 of the 4 losses, and honestly 1 of the 2 wins were mistake filled games. SFIAH
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10-20-2014, 01:20 PM	#3
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: What the Lions loss means Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I don't see this as the rookies fault. Every loss this team has is because of mistakes, Interceptions, fumbles, blown assignments, missed tackles, and penalties. And it's not the rookies making these mistakes. SFIAH No, no, no, no...that's not what I meant. My bad. What I feebly was trying to say was that the coaches should try and light a spark by putting a rookie(s) into a position to succeed. Getting Cooks down field running 10-30 yard routes instead of those line-of-scrimmage plays that are getting blown up more times than not or some dinky 5-10 yard route. Or getting Sunseri into the secondary mix...great coverage by him in the end zone, by the way. Very encouraged by this. But, no, I am definitely not pinning any blame on our rookies. My apologies with my not grasping the English language like I should. BFM
	"I'd far rather be happy than right any day" ~ Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy "Honor: if you need it defined, you don't have it" ~ Ron Swanson

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10-20-2014, 01:26 PM	#4
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: What the Lions loss means Originally Posted by Barry from MS Getting Cooks down field running 10-30 yard routes instead of those line-of-scrimmage plays that are getting blown up more times than not or some dinky 5-10 yard route. I was just discussing this with a buddy yesterday. Why haven't they sent Cooks on more deep routes where he can get up a head of steam and take advantage of his speed? dizzle88 likes this.