I wouldnt write the Saints off just yet

SaintsBro · 10-22-2014, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Last minute collapses like this rarely turn into victories the next week.

I don't know about that. Maybe last minute collapses might be a different stat, but generally speaking, the Saints do REALLY WELL at home in prime time, in a game after a disappointing or lackluster loss the week before.

Last year, we lost to the Jets on the road in a feeble, fairly miserable effort, then shellacked the Cowboys at home the next week under the prime time lights. We lost to the Bucs on the road in 2011, the time when Payton broke his leg during the game, then we obliterated the hapless Colts the next week by 62-7 or whatever it was. In 2010, we lost that stupid moronic game to the Browns, and then trounced the Steelers at home (that one wasn't a high scoring game but it was pretty epic).

Like I said, maybe last-minute collapses is a different stat. I think a bit more often than they don't, Payton and the Saints seem to turn it around at home in prime time, after they have one of those type of games the week before. We collapsed on the final play against the Patriots last year up in Foxboro, then came back after our bye in the Benz and waltzed all over the Bills. 35-17.

WHODATINCA · 10-22-2014, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

all of what you just said is the reason why i'm a lil hopeful. but you cant just down play losing a game where you had a 13 point lead with approx 5 mins left in the game. that will mess with your psychie, hell its messing with my psychie as a fan, so i know it will as players and coaches. as a fan i'm trying to stay optimistic but man after that loss its very very hard.

I'm not down playing anything. Our record is abysmal this year. Whoever called it a dumpster fire was spot on. LOL.

But, and this is a BIG but, our record is not who this team CAN BE -- THIS YEAR. And, that is what is frustrating -- to everyone. That this team is blowing a shot at the playoffs and maybe even a SB run. I know, I know -- we are who our record says we are -- and in this moment -- it's true. But, it doesn't HAVE to be. Not like freaking Tampa or Oakland for Christ's sake. We are not those teams. We are just playing like it right now. This ship CAN BE righted. It hasn't sailed ---- YET.

Sunday night, we''ll see.

AsylumGuido · 10-22-2014, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Saint in Aus

Giving away stupid penalties hasn't helped either.

It would be interesting to know where we are ranked in regard to giving away penalties this season.

Welcome, mate! We need a bit more Oz around here. Fair dinkum on the penalties. Makes you wanna blow some kerbside quiche.

hagan714 · 10-22-2014, 06:36 PM

play with desire and pride would be the place to start
this defense looks scared and so does Rob.
I swear we are in a prevent form of defense 60% of the time.

The Dude · 10-22-2014, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

You have to be bipolar... I've never seen someone who can go from Chicken Little negative to sunshine up the wazoo positive so quickly...

I thought you had me on ignore. You just can't help yourself can you.

Saint in Aus · 10-22-2014, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

We're 4th best in the league in number of penalties.
5th best in the league in penalty yardage.

NFL Penalties - 2014 League Penalty Stats - NFL Penalty Stats Tracker - List/Statistics/Data of NFL Penalties - 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014

(I didn't believe it so I went back and checked the box scores for the Saints games this season and the number is correct)

Thanks for that.

That doesn't tell the whole story. Of those penalties how many led to a touchdown drive. I bet that ratio would be damning.

Against Detroit I recall a penalty on a third down (which we had covered prior to the penalty) which I think resulted in a touch down drive.

|Mitch| · 10-23-2014, 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I thought you had me on ignore. You just can't help yourself can you.

loss of good judgement

westbankdaze · 10-23-2014, 04:36 AM

Green Bay is going to slaughter us.

billyt81 · 10-23-2014, 05:45 AM

Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda! Playoffs, Playoffs!! We're entering miracle status. As in it'd be a miracle if we turned this season around. We need Ingram to go off.

Rugby Saint II · 10-23-2014, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

You have to be bipolar... I've never seen someone who can go from Chicken Little negative to sunshine up the wazoo positive so quickly...

Come on Mitch. He's trying. That is a nice improvement over past posts....and hey, we are all part of the Saints family.

10-22-2014, 03:23 PM	#11
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I wouldnt write the Saints off just yet Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Last minute collapses like this rarely turn into victories the next week. I don't know about that. Maybe last minute collapses might be a different stat, but generally speaking, the Saints do REALLY WELL at home in prime time, in a game after a disappointing or lackluster loss the week before. Last year, we lost to the Jets on the road in a feeble, fairly miserable effort, then shellacked the Cowboys at home the next week under the prime time lights. We lost to the Bucs on the road in 2011, the time when Payton broke his leg during the game, then we obliterated the hapless Colts the next week by 62-7 or whatever it was. In 2010, we lost that stupid moronic game to the Browns, and then trounced the Steelers at home (that one wasn't a high scoring game but it was pretty epic). Like I said, maybe last-minute collapses is a different stat. I think a bit more often than they don't, Payton and the Saints seem to turn it around at home in prime time, after they have one of those type of games the week before. We collapsed on the final play against the Patriots last year up in Foxboro, then came back after our bye in the Benz and waltzed all over the Bills. 35-17.

10-22-2014, 06:07 PM	#12
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: I wouldnt write the Saints off just yet Originally Posted by teddybarexxx all of what you just said is the reason why i'm a lil hopeful. but you cant just down play losing a game where you had a 13 point lead with approx 5 mins left in the game. that will mess with your psychie, hell its messing with my psychie as a fan, so i know it will as players and coaches. as a fan i'm trying to stay optimistic but man after that loss its very very hard. I'm not down playing anything. Our record is abysmal this year. Whoever called it a dumpster fire was spot on. LOL. But, and this is a BIG but, our record is not who this team CAN BE -- THIS YEAR. And, that is what is frustrating -- to everyone. That this team is blowing a shot at the playoffs and maybe even a SB run. I know, I know -- we are who our record says we are -- and in this moment -- it's true. But, it doesn't HAVE to be. Not like freaking Tampa or Oakland for Christ's sake. We are not those teams. We are just playing like it right now. This ship CAN BE righted. It hasn't sailed ---- YET. Sunday night, we''ll see.
	Shutdown defense in 2017 = Championship!

10-22-2014, 06:25 PM	#13
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,207	Re: I wouldnt write the Saints off just yet Originally Posted by Saint in Aus Giving away stupid penalties hasn't helped either. It would be interesting to know where we are ranked in regard to giving away penalties this season. Welcome, mate! We need a bit more Oz around here. Fair dinkum on the penalties. Makes you wanna blow some kerbside quiche. Saint in Aus likes this.

10-22-2014, 06:36 PM	#14
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: I wouldnt write the Saints off just yet play with desire and pride would be the place to start this defense looks scared and so does Rob. I swear we are in a prevent form of defense 60% of the time.

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Saint in Aus 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 468	Re: I wouldnt write the Saints off just yet Originally Posted by Utah_Saint We're 4th best in the league in number of penalties. 5th best in the league in penalty yardage. NFL Penalties - 2014 League Penalty Stats - NFL Penalty Stats Tracker - List/Statistics/Data of NFL Penalties - 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 (I didn't believe it so I went back and checked the box scores for the Saints games this season and the number is correct) Thanks for that. That doesn't tell the whole story. Of those penalties how many led to a touchdown drive. I bet that ratio would be damning. Against Detroit I recall a penalty on a third down (which we had covered prior to the penalty) which I think resulted in a touch down drive.

10-23-2014, 01:28 AM	#17
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: I wouldnt write the Saints off just yet Originally Posted by The Dude I thought you had me on ignore. You just can't help yourself can you. loss of good judgement

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: I wouldnt write the Saints off just yet Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| You have to be bipolar... I've never seen someone who can go from Chicken Little negative to sunshine up the wazoo positive so quickly... Come on Mitch. He's trying. That is a nice improvement over past posts....and hey, we are all part of the Saints family.

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