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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I haven't watched this yet Jeff Duncan from New Orleans Times-Picayune joins PFT Live to urge Saints fans to temper their anger at the team’s 2-4 start because of their narrow margin of defeat and deciphers if Drew Brees and ...

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Old 10-24-2014, 02:15 PM   #1
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PFT Live: Can Saints offense overcome shaky defense?

I haven't watched this yet

Jeff Duncan from New Orleans Times-Picayune joins PFT Live to urge Saints fans to temper their anger at the team’s 2-4 start because of their narrow margin of defeat and deciphers if Drew Brees and the offense can carry the defense that has looked shaky at times the rest of the way.

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Old 10-24-2014, 02:49 PM   #2
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Re: PFT Live: Can Saints offense overcome shaky defense?

2008-2012 Drew Brees could carry any defense

In 2008, 2011 and 2012 the offense carried the team

Drew is making bad decisions now though
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Old 10-25-2014, 04:26 PM   #3
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Re: PFT Live: Can Saints offense overcome shaky defense?

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2008-2012 Drew Brees could carry any defense

In 2008, 2011 and 2012 the offense carried the team

Drew is making bad decisions now though
You don't seriously think that Brees, all of a sudden, this year, has lost his ability to read defenses, look off DBs, and protect the football, right?

I'm not saying that DB is having a great year ... but I think your analysis gives him both too much credit and too much discredit.

And, it is this special theory of relative blame that gives me pause this year -- ESPECIALLY when the theory involves only one player.

I start hearing game show error buzzers.
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Old 10-25-2014, 05:13 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by WHODATINCA View Post
You don't seriously think that Brees, all of a sudden, this year, has lost his ability to read defenses, look off DBs, and protect the football, right?

I'm not saying that DB is having a great year ... but I think your analysis gives him both too much credit and too much discredit.

And, it is this special theory of relative blame that gives me pause this year -- ESPECIALLY when the theory involves only one player.

I start hearing game show error buzzers.
My point was that the drew Brees of those years did not make dumb throws like he has been doing

Almost Brett favre-esque trying to complete a pass whilst falling down and throwing a wounded duck straight to the defender

I would say drew Brees has lost his ability to protect the football, seen as he is missing open receivers and throwing into double coverage - see the Dallas interception.
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My point was that the drew Brees of those years did not make dumb throws like he has been doing

Almost Brett favre-esque trying to complete a pass whilst falling down and throwing a wounded duck straight to the defender

I would say drew Brees has lost his ability to protect the football, seen as he is missing open receivers and throwing into double coverage - see the Dallas interception.
Yes, he has, Drew's always thrown interceptions. More so when the team isn't playing well and he's trying to do too much.
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Yes, he has, Drew's always thrown interceptions. More so when the team isn't playing well and he's trying to do too much.
Not at the rate he is doing now

2009 - 34 TD's, 11 ints
2011 - 46 TD's, 12 ints
2014 so far - 9 TD's, 7 ints

He is on pace for another 20 interception year just like 2010 when he couldn't protect the ball that year.
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So Drew is the reason we are 2-4?
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So Drew is the reason we are 2-4?
Drew is not the reason we are 2-4 but he is not without blame, 7 picks through 6 weeks is a lot by anyones standards .
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Re: PFT Live: Can Saints offense overcome shaky defense?

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...to urge Saints fans to temper their anger at the team’s 2-4 start...
Gotta love the melodramatic.

I am so spittin' mad the Saints are 2-4 that I cannot function properly in society. OK, so I can't function properly in society anyhow, but it ain't because the Saints are 2-4.

Drew will be fine as long as there's no more major flare-ups with the oblique. And remember how Brady was just so washed up after Week 4? Yeah, we're not hearing that now. I gotta feeling the same with come for Brees, too.
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Wait what?

Our defense sucks?
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