PFT Live: Can Saints offense overcome shaky defense?

WhoDat!656 · 10-24-2014, 02:15 PM

I haven't watched this yet

Jeff Duncan from New Orleans Times-Picayune joins PFT Live to urge Saints fans to temper their anger at the team’s 2-4 start because of their narrow margin of defeat and deciphers if Drew Brees and the offense can carry the defense that has looked shaky at times the rest of the way.

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dizzle88 · 10-24-2014, 02:49 PM

2008-2012 Drew Brees could carry any defense

In 2008, 2011 and 2012 the offense carried the team

Drew is making bad decisions now though

WHODATINCA · 10-25-2014, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

2008-2012 Drew Brees could carry any defense

In 2008, 2011 and 2012 the offense carried the team

Drew is making bad decisions now though

You don't seriously think that Brees, all of a sudden, this year, has lost his ability to read defenses, look off DBs, and protect the football, right?

I'm not saying that DB is having a great year ... but I think your analysis gives him both too much credit and too much discredit.

And, it is this special theory of relative blame that gives me pause this year -- ESPECIALLY when the theory involves only one player.

I start hearing game show error buzzers.

dizzle88 · 10-25-2014, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by WHODATINCA

You don't seriously think that Brees, all of a sudden, this year, has lost his ability to read defenses, look off DBs, and protect the football, right?

I'm not saying that DB is having a great year ... but I think your analysis gives him both too much credit and too much discredit.

And, it is this special theory of relative blame that gives me pause this year -- ESPECIALLY when the theory involves only one player.

I start hearing game show error buzzers.

My point was that the drew Brees of those years did not make dumb throws like he has been doing

Almost Brett favre-esque trying to complete a pass whilst falling down and throwing a wounded duck straight to the defender

I would say drew Brees has lost his ability to protect the football, seen as he is missing open receivers and throwing into double coverage - see the Dallas interception.

Utah_Saint · 10-25-2014, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

My point was that the drew Brees of those years did not make dumb throws like he has been doing

Almost Brett favre-esque trying to complete a pass whilst falling down and throwing a wounded duck straight to the defender

I would say drew Brees has lost his ability to protect the football, seen as he is missing open receivers and throwing into double coverage - see the Dallas interception.

Yes, he has, Drew's always thrown interceptions. More so when the team isn't playing well and he's trying to do too much.

dizzle88 · 10-26-2014, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Yes, he has, Drew's always thrown interceptions. More so when the team isn't playing well and he's trying to do too much.

Not at the rate he is doing now

2009 - 34 TD's, 11 ints
2011 - 46 TD's, 12 ints
2014 so far - 9 TD's, 7 ints

He is on pace for another 20 interception year just like 2010 when he couldn't protect the ball that year.

Rell&Gold · 10-24-2014, 02:56 PM

So Drew is the reason we are 2-4?

dizzle88 · 10-24-2014, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

So Drew is the reason we are 2-4?

Drew is not the reason we are 2-4 but he is not without blame, 7 picks through 6 weeks is a lot by anyones standards .

Barry from MS · 10-24-2014, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

...to urge Saints fans to temper their anger at the team’s 2-4 start...

Gotta love the melodramatic.

I am so spittin' mad the Saints are 2-4 that I cannot function properly in society. OK, so I can't function properly in society anyhow, but it ain't because the Saints are 2-4.

Drew will be fine as long as there's no more major flare-ups with the oblique. And remember how Brady was just so washed up after Week 4? Yeah, we're not hearing that now. I gotta feeling the same with come for Brees, too.

Danno · 10-24-2014, 05:12 PM

Wait what?

Our defense sucks?

10-24-2014, 02:15 PM	#1
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,085	PFT Live: Can Saints offense overcome shaky defense? I haven't watched this yet Jeff Duncan from New Orleans Times-Picayune joins PFT Live to urge Saints fans to temper their anger at the team’s 2-4 start because of their narrow margin of defeat and deciphers if Drew Brees and the offense can carry the defense that has looked shaky at times the rest of the way. PFT Live: Can Saints offense overcome shaky defense? \| ProFootballTalk

10-24-2014, 02:49 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,519	Re: PFT Live: Can Saints offense overcome shaky defense? 2008-2012 Drew Brees could carry any defense In 2008, 2011 and 2012 the offense carried the team Drew is making bad decisions now though

10-25-2014, 04:26 PM	#3
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: PFT Live: Can Saints offense overcome shaky defense? Originally Posted by dizzle88 2008-2012 Drew Brees could carry any defense In 2008, 2011 and 2012 the offense carried the team Drew is making bad decisions now though You don't seriously think that Brees, all of a sudden, this year, has lost his ability to read defenses, look off DBs, and protect the football, right? I'm not saying that DB is having a great year ... but I think your analysis gives him both too much credit and too much discredit. And, it is this special theory of relative blame that gives me pause this year -- ESPECIALLY when the theory involves only one player. I start hearing game show error buzzers.

10-25-2014, 05:13 PM	#4
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,519	Re: PFT Live: Can Saints offense overcome shaky defense? Originally Posted by WHODATINCA You don't seriously think that Brees, all of a sudden, this year, has lost his ability to read defenses, look off DBs, and protect the football, right? I'm not saying that DB is having a great year ... but I think your analysis gives him both too much credit and too much discredit. And, it is this special theory of relative blame that gives me pause this year -- ESPECIALLY when the theory involves only one player. I start hearing game show error buzzers. My point was that the drew Brees of those years did not make dumb throws like he has been doing Almost Brett favre-esque trying to complete a pass whilst falling down and throwing a wounded duck straight to the defender I would say drew Brees has lost his ability to protect the football, seen as he is missing open receivers and throwing into double coverage - see the Dallas interception.

10-25-2014, 07:56 PM	#5
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: PFT Live: Can Saints offense overcome shaky defense? Originally Posted by dizzle88 My point was that the drew Brees of those years did not make dumb throws like he has been doing Almost Brett favre-esque trying to complete a pass whilst falling down and throwing a wounded duck straight to the defender I would say drew Brees has lost his ability to protect the football, seen as he is missing open receivers and throwing into double coverage - see the Dallas interception. Yes, he has, Drew's always thrown interceptions. More so when the team isn't playing well and he's trying to do too much.

10-26-2014, 08:25 AM	#6
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,519	Re: PFT Live: Can Saints offense overcome shaky defense? Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Yes, he has, Drew's always thrown interceptions. More so when the team isn't playing well and he's trying to do too much. Not at the rate he is doing now 2009 - 34 TD's, 11 ints 2011 - 46 TD's, 12 ints 2014 so far - 9 TD's, 7 ints He is on pace for another 20 interception year just like 2010 when he couldn't protect the ball that year.

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Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: PFT Live: Can Saints offense overcome shaky defense? So Drew is the reason we are 2-4?

10-24-2014, 03:14 PM	#8
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,519	Re: PFT Live: Can Saints offense overcome shaky defense? Originally Posted by Rell&Gold So Drew is the reason we are 2-4? Drew is not the reason we are 2-4 but he is not without blame, 7 picks through 6 weeks is a lot by anyones standards .

10-24-2014, 03:30 PM	#9
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: PFT Live: Can Saints offense overcome shaky defense? Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 ...to urge Saints fans to temper their anger at the team’s 2-4 start... Gotta love the melodramatic. I am so spittin' mad the Saints are 2-4 that I cannot function properly in society. OK, so I can't function properly in society anyhow, but it ain't because the Saints are 2-4. Drew will be fine as long as there's no more major flare-ups with the oblique. And remember how Brady was just so washed up after Week 4? Yeah, we're not hearing that now. I gotta feeling the same with come for Brees, too. WhoDat!656 and Utah_Saint like this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Re: PFT Live: Can Saints offense overcome shaky defense? Wait what? Our defense sucks?

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