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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Jack Vegas I was there, nothing wrong with that crowd. Loud as hell all game long. Maybe the loudest I've ever heard the dome since we beat the Panthers in 09 on that touchdown fumble recovery in ...

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Old 10-27-2014, 02:57 AM   #21
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Re: Mannequin Defense

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I was there, nothing wrong with that crowd. Loud as hell all game long. Maybe the loudest I've ever heard the dome since we beat the Panthers in 09 on that touchdown fumble recovery in the end zone.
Haha, I was just making a joke. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with our crowd.
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Old 10-27-2014, 08:39 AM   #22
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Would it be considered overreacting if I said our defense last year was a fluke, and Rob Ryan is not a good DC?
I think so.
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Old 10-27-2014, 09:43 AM   #23
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I have been disappointed with our defense all season and I am sure everyone has. But in carefully watching the games and plays my issues are not with the scheme at all. It's all in the execution and the basic fundamentals of the sport. Our guys can't tackle, can't shed blocks and can't cover. They take bad angles in pursuit and when they get there it's half hearted attempts at bringing the guy down. Even last night. I couldn't keep counting the number of times we had 4-5 guys play two hand touch with Lacy or a WR and watch him keep chugging.

We can't get pressure with our front 4 and that is an issue Ryan could work with pressure packages but again, with our issues in coverage and tackling it is likely to backfire. I think he is doing the right thing playing coverage zones until he starts to see evidence we can win the one on one matchups that allow for man or blitzing. He's handcuffed by a bunch of underachieving players in my opinion. Aside from Curtis Lofton I don't see anyone excelling at their craft.
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Old 10-27-2014, 11:19 AM   #24
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i love cover 2 or cloud 3 or cloud 4 defense or any prevent defense. it is so exciting to watch.
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Old 10-27-2014, 03:50 PM   #25
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i love cover 2 or cloud 3 or cloud 4 defense or any prevent defense. it is so exciting to watch.
If Drew's out on the field...
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Old 10-27-2014, 04:16 PM   #26
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It's all in the execution and the basic fundamentals of the sport. Our guys can't tackle, can't shed blocks and can't cover. They take bad angles in pursuit and when they get there it's half hearted attempts at bringing the guy down. Even last night. I couldn't keep counting the number of times we had 4-5 guys play two hand touch with Lacy or a WR and watch him keep chugging.

We can't get pressure with our front 4 and that is an issue Ryan could work with pressure packages but again, with our issues in coverage and tackling it is likely to backfire. I think he is doing the right thing playing coverage zones until he starts to see evidence we can win the one on one matchups that allow for man or blitzing. He's handcuffed by a bunch of underachieving players in my opinion. Aside from Curtis Lofton I don't see anyone excelling at their craft.

I see it as well. A little concerned with the lack of form tackling from Bush/Vacarro in space. On the tackle attempt by Bush on Lacy... why grab a guy up high who outweighs you by 25-30 lbs? Also, Marcus Ball has not been as effective as I thought he would be at this point of the season. I would like to see more Edibaldi (sp) and Walker in the rotation going forward.

Agreed on Lofton, he has been solid thus far.
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