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xan 10-27-2014 09:06 AM

Lucky than Good
 
Giving up 491 yards, 400 in the air, and that's when their qb was hurt after their 1st drive in the 2nd half, doesn't indicate that this defense is any better.

3 consecutive red zone drives all ending with very perplexing playcalling does not mean that this offense is any better.

GB was the worst ranked defenses against the run, so we should have had no surprise in success, but I held my breath on so many occasions as passes that should have been defended were actually caught; those passes usually wound up in the wrong hands in weeks past. There was very little separation for our receivers, yet again, and the next few weeks feature pass defenses as good if not better than GB's.

That onside kick was comical, and so, so lucky that we recovered.

And further, when are we going to stop giving 10 yards of space to each receiver?

We were very lucky last night. GB was really good, but not lucky.

Wonder if we can get to the point where we can win without a lot of luck.

Utah_Saint 10-27-2014 09:20 AM

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"I am a great believer in luck, I find the harder I work, the more I have of it" - Thomas Jefferson

SaintsBro 10-27-2014 09:22 AM

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Did you not enjoy the game last night? That was the most fun I've had in the Dome since maybe sometime pre-2012.

K Major 10-27-2014 09:23 AM

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Green Bay and A Rodgers puts up those type of numbers on just about every team they play. Saints D was very opportunistic, came up with picks when the Pack became sloppy. Kennan took Jordy Nelson completely out of the game , Cam consistently beat his man off the line, Cooks showed the world why he was drafted in the 1st round, our O line parted the sea for Ingram.

We weren't completely lucky, we out played a GOOD team in many aspects of the game.
When we had the opportunity to finish off a team, we did.

Tobias-Reiper 10-27-2014 09:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xan (Post 621227)
Giving up 491 yards, 400 in the air, and that's when their qb was hurt after their 1st drive in the 2nd half, doesn't indicate that this defense is any better.

Actually, no. Rodgers did not throw for 400 yards after he was "hurt". In the Packers 1st and 2nd drives of the game, Rodgers had 2 passes go for 137 yards total; other than that... and I don't know how "hurt" Rodgers was...

... you know, I was going to offer counter points to your other points, but, meh..

You try too hard to maintain your forum persona.. heed Rodgers' advice. Relax. And if this is not your forum persona, seek help.

SASaintsfan 10-27-2014 09:33 AM

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Some people are just miserable and will never be satisfied.

xan 10-27-2014 10:41 AM

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Standards and expectations have to meet at some point. Otherwise last night was a fluke. I'm miserable because we're 3-4, not because it's my state of mind.

Jack Vegas 10-27-2014 10:47 AM

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The Packers have been tearing it up. Highest-scoring offense in the NFC. Our offense matched them point-for-point in the first half and defense kept them from running away with it.

We made our own good luck in this game, just as we made our own bad luck against the Browns, Falcons and Lions.

hagan714 10-27-2014 10:48 AM

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just take the wins when they come especially if they are ones you can kick back and enjoy.

Plus SP got out cute to boot ! this week GB coaches gotta explain all the silly calls they made in the game not SP.

Danno 10-27-2014 10:50 AM

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Its odd, we gave up 500 yards but it was probably our best defensive effort to date.

Not sure what to read into that one.

SaintsBro 10-27-2014 10:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 621268)
Its odd, we gave up 500 yards but it was probably our best defensive effort to date.

Not sure what to read into that one.

It reminded me a LOT of the Detroit playoff game in 2011/12. If you didn't watch the game and looked at their numbers the next day, on paper Detroit looked like they were doing well and were in the game. Megatron and Stafford seemed like they were great, on paper, with their usual tons of yards. But the reality on the field and the scoreboard was totally different. That's what this game reminded me of.

hagan714 10-27-2014 11:00 AM

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what is really funny is for once SP got out played called. today gB coaches are answer what were you thinking ? question from media

SP is out cute-ed by MM

jeanpierre 10-27-2014 11:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 621268)
Its odd, we gave up 500 yards but it was probably our best defensive effort to date.

Not sure what to read into that one.

The defense lacks consistency, depth and a good pass rush...

neugey 10-27-2014 11:13 AM

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We got fortunate on both of the deflection interceptions and it swung the game in our favor. But very good to see Corey White was in the right place and playing well to allow those picks to happen.

Outside of some fails trying to tackle Eddie Lacy, our tackling was better than usual.

The Dude 10-27-2014 11:49 AM

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Our offense was keeping up with them just fine before he got hurt.
Our defense was even just a little better than theirs too. If he didn't get hurt 9 times out of 10 we win that game anyway.

We cause two interceptions against a QB who is regarded as one of the best if not the best in the league with only one interception all year, actually get a little pressure for a change and beat what many were calling a Super Bowl contender by 3 touchdowns and people are still *****ing.

Danno 10-27-2014 12:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 621301)
Our offense was keeping up with them just fine before he got hurt.
Our defense was even just a little better than theirs too. If he didn't get hurt 9 times out of 10 we win that game anyway.

We cause two interceptions against a QB who is regarded as one of the best if not the best in the league with only one interception all year, actually get a little pressure for a change and beat what many were calling a Super Bowl contender by 3 touchdowns and people are still *****ing.

That or they're claiming we'll blow it Carolina next week.;)

Audiotom 10-27-2014 12:55 PM

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they played with heart last night but there are still some areas of concern we need to mop up especially on the road

our secondary was getting hit bad with short receptions in the flats
white and ball were way off the ball
this is Aaron Rodgers
the key was we tightened within the red zone

too many mistackles in the secondary, although Lacey was certainly earning those extra yards

Finally - we send Cooks vertical and utilize his speed
he busted right past the safeties on that TD

Jimmy shows up this game

and Drew fortunately doesn't have a receiver bat the ball in the air for a gift (we got those bounces)

the media is focusing on a huge injury to Aaron Rodgers
didn't look like he was hurt while he fired darts and eluded sacks during the second half

we matched them score for score and then some when the turnovers and bonehead Packers going for it on their 40 occurred

glad to see Payton not blowing a game with tom foolery
shut them down on third down

Halo 10-27-2014 03:43 PM

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Tobias-Reiper 10-27-2014 05:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 621268)
Its odd, we gave up 500 yards but it was probably our best defensive effort to date.

Not sure what to read into that one.

The way I see it, is what I call "Barry Sanders Stats". Barry Sanders was probably the all-time most exciting RB to watch, but he wasn't efficient at moving the ball consistently. You'd see his stats after a game, and see 120 yards rushing on 30 attempts, then you look at the runs, and see he had one run of 80 yards, and the other 29 were 1, -1, 2, -1.. etc. (and those were THE most exciting -1 yard running plays you saw in your life)... so the total number was impressive, but the running game was not efficient at consistently moving the ball.

Similarly, the Packers, in 2 passing plays very early in the game (their first 2 drives), got 137 yards. That's roughly 1/3rd of their passing yards in 2 plays. The other 281 yards Rodgers threw for, it took him 26 completions in 37 attempts, which is still very decent by NFL standards, but it is not the dominant performance the 418 total yards suggest.

WhoDat!656 10-27-2014 07:23 PM

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"Giving up 491 yards, 400 in the air, and that's when their qb was hurt after their 1st drive in the 2nd half, doesn't indicate that this defense is any better.

3 consecutive red zone drives all ending with very perplexing playcalling does not mean that this offense is any better."

How does a defense that isn't any better, after giving up a 70 yard touchdown pass on the opening drive keep the Packers from the end zone until the fourth quarter?

How does a defense that isn't any better force Green Bay to kick 2 FGs after they were in the red zone?

And in case you missed it, last night's game was only the THIRD time in NFL HISTORY that neither team punted!

WHODATINCA 10-27-2014 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 621401)
"Giving up 491 yards, 400 in the air, and that's when their qb was hurt after their 1st drive in the 2nd half, doesn't indicate that this defense is any better.

3 consecutive red zone drives all ending with very perplexing playcalling does not mean that this offense is any better."

How does a defense that isn't any better, after giving up a 70 yard touchdown pass on the opening drive keep the Packers from the end zone until the fourth quarter?

How does a defense that isn't any better force Green Bay to kick 2 FGs after they were in the red zone?

And in case you missed it, last night's game was only the THIRD time in NFL HISTORY that neither team punted!

Thank you 656, because I was just about to go all CRAZY CAT on some of these guys.

Damn, I expected to walk into a f**kin' early Mardi Gras here -- and what I get is a hospital waiting room.

Ya'll can't even remember how to second line? Really?

I got my machine in straight-up, bat sh*t crazy gear and I haven't even finished all my Kool-Aid, yet. Sumpthin' wrong with summa these folks roun' hea.

Drew Brees has a message for ya'll -- C-H-I-L-L-A-X.

QBREES9 10-27-2014 08:20 PM

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I work with two Packer fans . They never said a word to me. I think they though it was going to be a cake walk.

WHODATINCA 10-27-2014 09:30 PM

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No cake for The Pack. No cake for the Panthers, either.

44Champs 10-27-2014 11:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xan (Post 621227)
Giving up 491 yards, 400 in the air, and that's when their qb was hurt after their 1st drive in the 2nd half, doesn't indicate that this defense is any better.

3 consecutive red zone drives all ending with very perplexing playcalling does not mean that this offense is any better.

GB was the worst ranked defenses against the run, so we should have had no surprise in success, but I held my breath on so many occasions as passes that should have been defended were actually caught; those passes usually wound up in the wrong hands in weeks past. There was very little separation for our receivers, yet again, and the next few weeks feature pass defenses as good if not better than GB's.

That onside kick was comical, and so, so lucky that we recovered.

And further, when are we going to stop giving 10 yards of space to each receiver?

We were very lucky last night. GB was really good, but not lucky.

Wonder if we can get to the point where we can win without a lot of luck.

Seriously WGAF? We won, and as long as we keep winning,I dont G.A.S. how many yards we give up.


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