If someone buys tickets with there hard earn money, who in the bleep are you to tell them to give there tickets away???

This is a typical commentary. And who did you see sitting on their butts?

As for the cliche' of "we don't know what we're talking about": There are some dumb fans out there, but there are a lot more of us that no more than we're given any credit for. Do we know everything? No, because we aren't members of the organization. You can be a professional athlete or coach, and you still won't know what's going on with any other team but yours, as far as game plan and what sort of financial plans a team might have. We can't know those things.

But the game, itself, is not hard to understand. There are certain self evident truths that can't be denied. When you see something being done over and over again, and it isn't working, it's fair to say as a fan that it isn't working, and perhaps it's time to change some things. When fans are complaining, it's usually about pretty simple stuff. You don't need to know the ins and outs of what goes on behind the scenes to be able to observe the game of football and identify a problem. But we get treated like a bunch of dumb jocks from the coaches perspective. These guys give THEMSELVES way too much credit.

i have to agree. i missed the return years and the superbowl run. last time i was in the dome was last year and i have to say i was disappointed in the noise level much less the energy level at both games.

getting comfy with winning?
expecting to win year in and year out?
have saints fans have become complacent?
have the real fans been priced out od the dome?

Saints fans seem to do only the bare min. heck it was louder with less fans in the seats and a crapper team on the field back in day.

as a 13th player the 50% fans in the seats deserve a D grade for their performance.

The seahawks and chiefs fans get all the praise. those are open air stadiums also. fans should be ashamed.

the dome aint what it use to be

This is a typical commentary. And who did you see sitting on their butts?

As for the cliche' of "we don't know what we're talking about": There are some dumb fans out there, but there are a lot more of us that no more than we're given any credit for. Do we know everything? No, because we aren't members of the organization. You can be a professional athlete or coach, and you still won't know what's going on with any other team but yours, as far as game plan and what sort of financial plans a team might have. We can't know those things.

But the game, itself, is not hard to understand. There are certain self evident truths that can't be denied. When you see something being done over and over again, and it isn't working, it's fair to say as a fan that it isn't working, and perhaps it's time to change some things. When fans are complaining, it's usually about pretty simple stuff. You don't need to know the ins and outs of what goes on behind the scenes to be able to observe the game of football and identify a problem. But we get treated like a bunch of dumb jocks from the coaches perspective. These guys give THEMSELVES way too much credit.

Jay,

I want to apologize for some of our members giving you a personal foul for the above.

You're right, we all think we know what we're talking about, but in the end, we're just fans. Probably better educated than most, and definitely more opinionated than most, and absolutely more inebriated than most.

Don't be a stranger and post more often.

xan

I'm sorry, but I agree with Payton and JayFoster. Seattle clearly has the best home-field advantage in the league. It used to belong to the Saints, but the fans at games have gotten lazy recently. Every game I have been to over the past couple of years has had large numbers of supposed Saints fans that refused to make any noise while the educated fans are doing their best to help out the team.

Yes, you can sit on your ass or stand placidly while the opponent's offense is on the field, but in doing so you, in my personal opinion, surrender all rights to criticize the efforts of the defense.

Watch the Seahawks fans the next game. You will not see a single person not raising all grades of hell when their defense is on the field. Then watch the Saints crowd and you'll see one in every two simply taking up space being useless.

I think some season ticket holders are turning into the wine & cheese crowd like the Carolina fans.

That's still better than the moonshine and possum crowd in Atlanta.

Ha! The Clowns have a crowd?

That's still better than the moonshine and possum crowd in Atlanta.

Ha! The Clowns have a crowd?

Absolutely they do.

Some times they have over a hundred fans show up for a home game.