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Old 10-28-2014, 08:39 AM   #1
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Payton wants more from fans

HA!! Love this. Payton not only asking more from players but also from fans.

Smart move with our toughest schedule ahead and AT HOME

Saints fans make impact, but Sean Payton demands more - ESPN

Payton was surprisingly dismissive when asked for his reaction to the crowd noise inside the Mercedes-Benz Superdome after the Saints’ 44-23 victory over the Green Bay Packers on Sunday night.


“I thought it was good. I’ll be honest with you, I think it’s been a lot better,” Payton said. “And we’ll continue to work on challenging them and getting them fired up. But I thought it was decent.”
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????
GB burned 3 TO's and had a few penalties as well.

Maybe he is talking about all of the non-cheering after those non-sacks
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I'm equally dismissive about his coaching this year.
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I rarely post anything.

If you want to sit on your rear-end at the Dome, then stay home. Give your tickets to someone who will scream their head off and affect the game.

As to coaching and playing professional football, we think we know what we are talking about because we watch NFL Live or some other non-sense on tv.

The truth is, 99.9999999999999999999% of us have absolutely no idea what we are talking about.

We still have a chance this year so GET LOUD!
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Old 10-28-2014, 08:17 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by JayFoster View Post
I rarely post anything.

If you want to sit on your rear-end at the Dome, then stay home. Give your tickets to someone who will scream their head off and affect the game.

As to coaching and playing professional football, we think we know what we are talking about because we watch NFL Live or some other non-sense on tv.

The truth is, 99.9999999999999999999% of us have absolutely no idea what we are talking about.

We still have a chance this year so GET LOUD!

If someone buys tickets with there hard earn money, who in the bleep are you to tell them to give there tickets away???
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Old 10-29-2014, 10:33 AM   #6
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If someone buys tickets with there hard earn money, who in the bleep are you to tell them to give there tickets away???
I'm sorry, but I agree with Payton and JayFoster. Seattle clearly has the best home-field advantage in the league. It used to belong to the Saints, but the fans at games have gotten lazy recently. Every game I have been to over the past couple of years has had large numbers of supposed Saints fans that refused to make any noise while the educated fans are doing their best to help out the team.

Yes, you can sit on your ass or stand placidly while the opponent's offense is on the field, but in doing so you, in my personal opinion, surrender all rights to criticize the efforts of the defense.

Watch the Seahawks fans the next game. You will not see a single person not raising all grades of hell when their defense is on the field. Then watch the Saints crowd and you'll see one in every two simply taking up space being useless.
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Old 10-30-2014, 10:38 AM   #7
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I'm sorry, but I agree with Payton and JayFoster. Seattle clearly has the best home-field advantage in the league. It used to belong to the Saints, but the fans at games have gotten lazy recently. Every game I have been to over the past couple of years has had large numbers of supposed Saints fans that refused to make any noise while the educated fans are doing their best to help out the team.

Yes, you can sit on your ass or stand placidly while the opponent's offense is on the field, but in doing so you, in my personal opinion, surrender all rights to criticize the efforts of the defense.

Watch the Seahawks fans the next game. You will not see a single person not raising all grades of hell when their defense is on the field. Then watch the Saints crowd and you'll see one in every two simply taking up space being useless.
This is 100% on the money.

The last I checked, the Seahawks have THE MOST pre-snap penalties for opposing teams.

Why?

Crowd noise.

Their fans KNOW they can change the game.

I think some season ticket holders are turning into the wine & cheese crowd like the Carolina fans.
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Old 10-28-2014, 08:52 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by JayFoster View Post
I rarely post anything.

If you want to sit on your rear-end at the Dome, then stay home. Give your tickets to someone who will scream their head off and affect the game.

As to coaching and playing professional football, we think we know what we are talking about because we watch NFL Live or some other non-sense on tv.

The truth is, 99.9999999999999999999% of us have absolutely no idea what we are talking about.

We still have a chance this year so GET LOUD!
This is a typical commentary. And who did you see sitting on their butts?

As for the cliche' of "we don't know what we're talking about": There are some dumb fans out there, but there are a lot more of us that no more than we're given any credit for. Do we know everything? No, because we aren't members of the organization. You can be a professional athlete or coach, and you still won't know what's going on with any other team but yours, as far as game plan and what sort of financial plans a team might have. We can't know those things.

But the game, itself, is not hard to understand. There are certain self evident truths that can't be denied. When you see something being done over and over again, and it isn't working, it's fair to say as a fan that it isn't working, and perhaps it's time to change some things. When fans are complaining, it's usually about pretty simple stuff. You don't need to know the ins and outs of what goes on behind the scenes to be able to observe the game of football and identify a problem. But we get treated like a bunch of dumb jocks from the coaches perspective. These guys give THEMSELVES way too much credit.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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This is a typical commentary. And who did you see sitting on their butts?

As for the cliche' of "we don't know what we're talking about": There are some dumb fans out there, but there are a lot more of us that no more than we're given any credit for. Do we know everything? No, because we aren't members of the organization. You can be a professional athlete or coach, and you still won't know what's going on with any other team but yours, as far as game plan and what sort of financial plans a team might have. We can't know those things.

But the game, itself, is not hard to understand. There are certain self evident truths that can't be denied. When you see something being done over and over again, and it isn't working, it's fair to say as a fan that it isn't working, and perhaps it's time to change some things. When fans are complaining, it's usually about pretty simple stuff. You don't need to know the ins and outs of what goes on behind the scenes to be able to observe the game of football and identify a problem. But we get treated like a bunch of dumb jocks from the coaches perspective. These guys give THEMSELVES way too much credit.
I have regularly seen virtually half the Dome crowd recently sitting on their butts or standing, but not making a sound, when they should be trying to make it hard on the opponent's offense. THAT is a fact.
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This is a typical commentary. And who did you see sitting on their butts?

As for the cliche' of "we don't know what we're talking about": There are some dumb fans out there, but there are a lot more of us that no more than we're given any credit for. Do we know everything? No, because we aren't members of the organization. You can be a professional athlete or coach, and you still won't know what's going on with any other team but yours, as far as game plan and what sort of financial plans a team might have. We can't know those things.

But the game, itself, is not hard to understand. There are certain self evident truths that can't be denied. When you see something being done over and over again, and it isn't working, it's fair to say as a fan that it isn't working, and perhaps it's time to change some things. When fans are complaining, it's usually about pretty simple stuff. You don't need to know the ins and outs of what goes on behind the scenes to be able to observe the game of football and identify a problem. But we get treated like a bunch of dumb jocks from the coaches perspective. These guys give THEMSELVES way too much credit.

Good gracious.

None of us have any clue how the game is played at the NFL level. We think we know but we don't have any idea.

This is in a lot of sports actually and not just football.
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