Gifs of Roman Harper Missing Tackles vs the Saints Last Night

jeanpierre · 11-01-2014, 04:07 PM

I find they're are three types of opinion of Harper...

1) Good Saints fans that appreciated his effort and were willing to overlooked he often sucked balls when his assignment was anything other than blitzing a quarterback and was overpaid for that one ablity during his tenure...

2) Crimson-bleeding Homers that are incapable of admitting they're wrong about anything due to a dysfunctional personality and insecurity complex probably having something to do with compromised water sources and restricted gene pools...

3) Football fans that recognize Harper has less coordination and rhythm than a really white Canadian and probably wore cement shoes for cleats and couldn't last a day in a Geometry class because of his complete failure to grasp angles...

But we're hey, we're All Saints Fans, no one fan loving his/her team more than the other, just in their own, special way...

Barry from MS · 11-01-2014, 04:34 PM

We all knew Harper was not brought in for his coverage & ball skills. It was blatantly obvious with his body of work since being drafted by the Saints in the 2nd Rd in 2006 until he left after 2013. He was brought here in 2006 to because he's pretty darn good in run support.

In the NFC South in 2005, TB had a run-heavy offense. CAR had a run-heavy offense. ATL had a very run-heavy offense.

See the trend? Roman Harper was brought here to help shut that down, not to be a lock-down coverage safety. We knew his limitations in the passing game, but we did have some DC's that tried to fit a round peg in a triangle hole with him. His best years were when DC's played to Harper's strengths by playing him up around the line and blitzing. His worst years were when DC's thought it was simply a brilliant idea to have Harper cover WRs, faster RBs & faster TE's deep...which was simply brilliantly stoopid.

Foot Stomper · 11-01-2014, 05:36 PM

For such a nice guy and a pretty dang good talent he catches a lot of flack. Carolina hates him for hitting Steve Smith after the whistle the one time. Now most of you make fun of him. From all indications he was very well liked on this team which seems plausible based on Drew and him chatting after the game. I agree...pick on one of the many jerks in the league.

Barry from MS · 11-01-2014, 08:22 PM

spkb...you're right. I misread it. My bad. Thought they placed the loss on Harper, so I misread that.

In fairness to Harper, I see plenty of Strong Safeties week-to-week miss tackles and get blown up in coverage just like the original link posted on here.

Harper ain't the best, but he ain't the worst, either.

spkb25 · 11-01-2014, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

spkb...you're right. I misread it. My bad. Thought they placed the loss on Harper, so I misread that.

In fairness to Harper, I see plenty of Strong Safeties week-to-week miss tackles and get blown up in coverage just like the original link posted on here.

Harper ain't the best, but he ain't the worst, either.

No, absolutely not. I agree, man he made a lot of really good plays for us. He is not a bad guy by any means, and I have nothing against him. I have seen KV missing a lot of tackles this season. Harp's a professional and I remember a lot of blitzes where he sacked the QB or came up and stuffed the run.

Barry from MS · 11-01-2014, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

No, absolutely not. I agree, man he made a lot of really good plays for us. He is not a bad guy by any means, and I have nothing against him. I have seen KV missing a lot of tackles this season. Harp's a professional and I remember a lot of blitzes where he sacked the QB or came up and stuffed the run.

It's really tough to find a strong safety that has great coverage skills plus are a great run support asset. Usually we see Strong Safeties good at run support but weak in pass coverage and vice versa. The great strong safeties can do both, and do them very well.

DrewDat · 11-02-2014, 02:20 AM

Panthers fans and Who Dats both agree that man is terrible in coverage....Sometimes it hard to believe how many fans here thought he was worth keeping....we all have opinions but can someone PLEASE throw 3 consecutive seasons of positive stats in here because I really don't see where he was good besides Gregg's first year as DC

spkb25 · 11-02-2014, 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by DrewDat

Panthers fans and Who Dats both agree that man is terrible in coverage....Sometimes it hard to believe how many fans here thought he was worth keeping....we all have opinions but can someone PLEASE throw 3 consecutive seasons of positive stats in here because I really don't see where he was good besides Gregg's first year as DC

Honestly, at least from a tackles standpoint he was consistent 07-12. And he had the 7.5 sacks in 2011.

hagan714 · 11-02-2014, 04:18 AM

my money was well spent i see

Boutte · 11-03-2014, 05:31 PM

One of the hardest things to do is tackle a guy running straight at you in the open field. If that guy happens to be a good enough athlete to make it to the NFL he's not supposed to get tackled in that situation. Granted some guys are better at it than others but most are going to whiff as often as not.

11-01-2014, 04:07 PM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Gifs of Roman Harper Missing Tackles vs the Saints Last Night I find they're are three types of opinion of Harper... 1) Good Saints fans that appreciated his effort and were willing to overlooked he often sucked balls when his assignment was anything other than blitzing a quarterback and was overpaid for that one ablity during his tenure... 2) Crimson-bleeding Homers that are incapable of admitting they're wrong about anything due to a dysfunctional personality and insecurity complex probably having something to do with compromised water sources and restricted gene pools... 3) Football fans that recognize Harper has less coordination and rhythm than a really white Canadian and probably wore cement shoes for cleats and couldn't last a day in a Geometry class because of his complete failure to grasp angles... But we're hey, we're All Saints Fans, no one fan loving his/her team more than the other, just in their own, special way... DrewDat, Exxcalibur and brees84 like this.
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11-01-2014, 04:34 PM	#2
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Gifs of Roman Harper Missing Tackles vs the Saints Last Night We all knew Harper was not brought in for his coverage & ball skills. It was blatantly obvious with his body of work since being drafted by the Saints in the 2nd Rd in 2006 until he left after 2013. He was brought here in 2006 to because he's pretty darn good in run support. In the NFC South in 2005, TB had a run-heavy offense. CAR had a run-heavy offense. ATL had a very run-heavy offense. See the trend? Roman Harper was brought here to help shut that down, not to be a lock-down coverage safety. We knew his limitations in the passing game, but we did have some DC's that tried to fit a round peg in a triangle hole with him. His best years were when DC's played to Harper's strengths by playing him up around the line and blitzing. His worst years were when DC's thought it was simply a brilliant idea to have Harper cover WRs, faster RBs & faster TE's deep...which was simply brilliantly stoopid.
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11-01-2014, 05:36 PM	#3
Foot Stomper Carolina Sucks Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 379	Re: Gifs of Roman Harper Missing Tackles vs the Saints Last Night For such a nice guy and a pretty dang good talent he catches a lot of flack. Carolina hates him for hitting Steve Smith after the whistle the one time. Now most of you make fun of him. From all indications he was very well liked on this team which seems plausible based on Drew and him chatting after the game. I agree...pick on one of the many jerks in the league. dizzle88 likes this.

11-01-2014, 08:22 PM	#4
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Gifs of Roman Harper Missing Tackles vs the Saints Last Night spkb...you're right. I misread it. My bad. Thought they placed the loss on Harper, so I misread that. In fairness to Harper, I see plenty of Strong Safeties week-to-week miss tackles and get blown up in coverage just like the original link posted on here. Harper ain't the best, but he ain't the worst, either.

11-01-2014, 10:08 PM	#5
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Gifs of Roman Harper Missing Tackles vs the Saints Last Night Originally Posted by Barry from MS spkb...you're right. I misread it. My bad. Thought they placed the loss on Harper, so I misread that. In fairness to Harper, I see plenty of Strong Safeties week-to-week miss tackles and get blown up in coverage just like the original link posted on here. Harper ain't the best, but he ain't the worst, either. No, absolutely not. I agree, man he made a lot of really good plays for us. He is not a bad guy by any means, and I have nothing against him. I have seen KV missing a lot of tackles this season. Harp's a professional and I remember a lot of blitzes where he sacked the QB or came up and stuffed the run.

11-01-2014, 10:22 PM	#6
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Gifs of Roman Harper Missing Tackles vs the Saints Last Night Originally Posted by spkb25 No, absolutely not. I agree, man he made a lot of really good plays for us. He is not a bad guy by any means, and I have nothing against him. I have seen KV missing a lot of tackles this season. Harp's a professional and I remember a lot of blitzes where he sacked the QB or came up and stuffed the run. It's really tough to find a strong safety that has great coverage skills plus are a great run support asset. Usually we see Strong Safeties good at run support but weak in pass coverage and vice versa. The great strong safeties can do both, and do them very well. spkb25 likes this.

11-02-2014, 02:20 AM	#7
DrewDat DOMEPATROL Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Jacksonville,Florida Due To Military Obligation Posts: 479	Re: Gifs of Roman Harper Missing Tackles vs the Saints Last Night Panthers fans and Who Dats both agree that man is terrible in coverage....Sometimes it hard to believe how many fans here thought he was worth keeping....we all have opinions but can someone PLEASE throw 3 consecutive seasons of positive stats in here because I really don't see where he was good besides Gregg's first year as DC

11-02-2014, 07:00 AM	#8
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Gifs of Roman Harper Missing Tackles vs the Saints Last Night Originally Posted by DrewDat Panthers fans and Who Dats both agree that man is terrible in coverage....Sometimes it hard to believe how many fans here thought he was worth keeping....we all have opinions but can someone PLEASE throw 3 consecutive seasons of positive stats in here because I really don't see where he was good besides Gregg's first year as DC Honestly, at least from a tackles standpoint he was consistent 07-12. And he had the 7.5 sacks in 2011.

11-02-2014, 04:18 AM	#9
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Gifs of Roman Harper Missing Tackles vs the Saints Last Night my money was well spent i see

11-03-2014, 05:31 PM	#10
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: Gifs of Roman Harper Missing Tackles vs the Saints Last Night One of the hardest things to do is tackle a guy running straight at you in the open field. If that guy happens to be a good enough athlete to make it to the NFL he's not supposed to get tackled in that situation. Granted some guys are better at it than others but most are going to whiff as often as not.

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