What play makes you the most nervous with this team?

dizzle88 · 11-11-2014, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton

True,but he had pressure in his face most of the game. That's why pressures can be just as effective as sacks....that will cause any QB to make bad decisions. Look what happened at the end of the game when he trusted his protection....he got hit from behind and fumbled the ball. Your right though,he should have never thrown into triple coverage. I just don't agree with the fans booing him. He's done way too much good to be criticized so harshly for the mistakes he's made. Although he is contributing to our loses,his mistakes are not the reason we are losing games.

Drew made mistakes last year but we had the defense that could bail him out
I understand the fans point of view, they are paying their hard earned money to watch our team shoot themselves in the foot the exact same way every week

The NFL has and always will be a what have you done for me lately, and lately they have done nothing but let us down
I think it's wrong to boo Brees alone, but people have become accustomed to such high level play from him that when our team starts struggling and he makes a dumb decision the whole situation is magnified

Brees deserves a lot of the blame but so does the defense, they've had multiple opportunities to help Brees and failed to do so
Still, Brees is responsible for 12 turnovers so far this season, until we lower the turnovers, we won't be looking at better than 7-9.

dizzle88 · 11-11-2014, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

hey dizzle88 dont forget the countless 3 and outs. man we have to create drives. some how find ways to produce 1st downs. it seems to me we love the big play down field and so does the opposing defenses. i know you all like to call me "i told you so", but hey man you have no choice but to say:run run run the damn football! ! now dizzle you know me and you and danno went round and round for weeks with this and i was like we should have more rushing yards when you have 3 premier backs now we're down to one and the guy is beasting and you dont utilize him! i said in the beginning of this season our success will not be on the arm of drew f'n brees its gonna be on the run game. 2nd and 2 in ot and you're emptied the backfield wtf! 3rd and 2 you're in shotgun wtf! man im just too outdone.

I think its more of a problem now than it was earlier in the season, SP's playcall has been questionable

I agree that we should have ran Ingram on 3rd and 2, the 2nd and 2 play was doomed from the start as soon as we opened in an empty backfield, the 9ers were blitzing all game

I think we should have utilised cooks more, the 9ers could not cover him

They were so aggressive on the blitz, a fly sweep or reverse to cooks could have been lethal.

SaintsBro · 11-11-2014, 09:03 AM

3rd and 3, 3rd and 2. I almost can't bear to look anymore. A couple of times, I was actually glad when the frat dudes in the row in front of me all stood up on 3rd down, I could just cower in my seat and listen to the crowd reaction to figure out what happened.

Also empty backfield on 2nd and 1. I get that Payton is Payton and Drew is Drew and the Saints are sometimes going to have opportunities to take their shots, but it seems like lately NOTHING good ever happens on 2nd down with that empty backfield. Now it looks like a holdover relic from a different time and era, back when that stuff used to work.

Rugby Saint II · 11-11-2014, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton

Brees is a phenomenal player who does mess up at times but has carried this team for so long. He is a leader, a captain, and the face of this franchise, and you just don't bench somebody like that. To be honest, I read in another post that he was booed in the SF game and I don't think that was right. He is not a flop or lazy and prepares more than anybody on that team. He is an ultimate competitor and his mistakes bother him just as much if not more than it does us. One of his downfalls is he panics under pressure and tries to do too much. Give that man some good protection and watch what he can do. Hell, just go back and watch the Green Bay game. To expect him to be phenomenal without good protection is like trying to have sex on sleeping pills....you might get the job done, but you'll be sloppy and inconsistent and theres a good chance you wont finish strong.

No matter what I would NEVER Boo Drew!

SaintLeonard · 11-11-2014, 06:04 PM

Simply put....

The people who are unhappy with Brees do not know how good we have it right now. Those people will be in for a huge letdown when he is gone and we have another QB, because there's a very good chance the successor to Drew won't be as good as him.

He makes some mistakes, EVERY quarterback does. Nobody is perfect. But more often than not he is amazing and he always gives us a chance.

The Dude · 11-12-2014, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Vaccaro has been horrendous this year, missed tackles and assignments, to think we were calling him a great pick a year ago.

I agree but in his defense he isn't getting much help and Harper is not there for QBs to exploit.

Mardigras9 · 11-12-2014, 10:58 AM

Any play with a mobile opposing QB.

arsaint · 11-12-2014, 11:53 AM

A) (3rd / 4th) and 1

2) 35 yard FG to tie / win

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11-11-2014, 08:09 AM	#21
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,118	Re: What play makes you the most nervous with this team? Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton True,but he had pressure in his face most of the game. That's why pressures can be just as effective as sacks....that will cause any QB to make bad decisions. Look what happened at the end of the game when he trusted his protection....he got hit from behind and fumbled the ball. Your right though,he should have never thrown into triple coverage. I just don't agree with the fans booing him. He's done way too much good to be criticized so harshly for the mistakes he's made. Although he is contributing to our loses,his mistakes are not the reason we are losing games. Drew made mistakes last year but we had the defense that could bail him out I understand the fans point of view, they are paying their hard earned money to watch our team shoot themselves in the foot the exact same way every week The NFL has and always will be a what have you done for me lately, and lately they have done nothing but let us down I think it's wrong to boo Brees alone, but people have become accustomed to such high level play from him that when our team starts struggling and he makes a dumb decision the whole situation is magnified Brees deserves a lot of the blame but so does the defense, they've had multiple opportunities to help Brees and failed to do so Still, Brees is responsible for 12 turnovers so far this season, until we lower the turnovers, we won't be looking at better than 7-9. teddybarexxx likes this.
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11-11-2014, 08:35 AM	#22
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,118	Re: What play makes you the most nervous with this team? Originally Posted by teddybarexxx hey dizzle88 dont forget the countless 3 and outs. man we have to create drives. some how find ways to produce 1st downs. it seems to me we love the big play down field and so does the opposing defenses. i know you all like to call me "i told you so", but hey man you have no choice but to say:run run run the damn football! ! now dizzle you know me and you and danno went round and round for weeks with this and i was like we should have more rushing yards when you have 3 premier backs now we're down to one and the guy is beasting and you dont utilize him! i said in the beginning of this season our success will not be on the arm of drew f'n brees its gonna be on the run game. 2nd and 2 in ot and you're emptied the backfield wtf! 3rd and 2 you're in shotgun wtf! man im just too outdone. I think its more of a problem now than it was earlier in the season, SP's playcall has been questionable I agree that we should have ran Ingram on 3rd and 2, the 2nd and 2 play was doomed from the start as soon as we opened in an empty backfield, the 9ers were blitzing all game I think we should have utilised cooks more, the 9ers could not cover him They were so aggressive on the blitz, a fly sweep or reverse to cooks could have been lethal.

11-11-2014, 09:03 AM	#23
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What play makes you the most nervous with this team? 3rd and 3, 3rd and 2. I almost can't bear to look anymore. A couple of times, I was actually glad when the frat dudes in the row in front of me all stood up on 3rd down, I could just cower in my seat and listen to the crowd reaction to figure out what happened. Also empty backfield on 2nd and 1. I get that Payton is Payton and Drew is Drew and the Saints are sometimes going to have opportunities to take their shots, but it seems like lately NOTHING good ever happens on 2nd down with that empty backfield. Now it looks like a holdover relic from a different time and era, back when that stuff used to work. dizzle88 likes this.
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11-11-2014, 02:46 PM	#24
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,043	Re: What play makes you the most nervous with this team? Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton Brees is a phenomenal player who does mess up at times but has carried this team for so long. He is a leader, a captain, and the face of this franchise, and you just don't bench somebody like that. To be honest, I read in another post that he was booed in the SF game and I don't think that was right. He is not a flop or lazy and prepares more than anybody on that team. He is an ultimate competitor and his mistakes bother him just as much if not more than it does us. One of his downfalls is he panics under pressure and tries to do too much. Give that man some good protection and watch what he can do. Hell, just go back and watch the Green Bay game. To expect him to be phenomenal without good protection is like trying to have sex on sleeping pills....you might get the job done, but you'll be sloppy and inconsistent and theres a good chance you wont finish strong. No matter what I would NEVER Boo Drew! Mardigras9 likes this.

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11-11-2014, 06:04 PM	#25
SaintLeonard Bounty hunter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Nashville Posts: 490	Re: What play makes you the most nervous with this team? Simply put.... The people who are unhappy with Brees do not know how good we have it right now. Those people will be in for a huge letdown when he is gone and we have another QB, because there's a very good chance the successor to Drew won't be as good as him. He makes some mistakes, EVERY quarterback does. Nobody is perfect. But more often than not he is amazing and he always gives us a chance. Mr.Riaton likes this.

11-12-2014, 10:39 AM	#26
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: What play makes you the most nervous with this team? Originally Posted by dizzle88 Vaccaro has been horrendous this year, missed tackles and assignments, to think we were calling him a great pick a year ago. I agree but in his defense he isn't getting much help and Harper is not there for QBs to exploit.
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11-12-2014, 10:58 AM	#27
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: What play makes you the most nervous with this team? Any play with a mobile opposing QB.

11-12-2014, 11:53 AM	#28
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