Sean Payton talks about overtime loss to 49ers

11-11-2014, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

It's been painful to watch.

Almost seems like a mental issue now.

I think it all starts with training camp, no mental toughness to close out games because the players had it easy in greenbrier.

The team that trained in NOLA in sweltering heat never let up off the gas pedal

hagan714 · 11-11-2014, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

you know why that 4th and 10 play worked because you have to be mindful of the scrambling abilites of kap. once he started moving with the football you have a tendacy of looking in the back field so to speak to make sure he dont get a way for a scramble for 10 yards. he has done it before. matter of a fact he scrambled before for like 7 or 8 yards for a 1st down on a previous play. to me the biggest stat that caused us the game is turnovers. protect the football we may came out with a win.

now i would agree with you except for one fact. The WR came open from the opposite side of the field than the direction of the scramble. in a case like that the cover man should have never let the WR run free especially when the WR turned his route to the middle of the field closing the gap between the QB and himself. The WR did his job. go deep and work your way towards the opposite side of the field.

So the cover assignment was blown. the CB opposite should stay with his man till the QB crosses the line of scrimmage then take the best angle to put himself between the goal line and the QB to make a play.

Rolling coverage on a busted play is standard. everything is not suppose to fall apart. He is suppose to be among the last line of defense to prevent a TD. this breaking down does not fly. this is pee-wee football stuff

He blew the assignment. I wish i recorded the game. who was the numb nut?

saintsfan1976 · 11-11-2014, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

now i would agree with you except for one fact. The WR came open from the opposite side of the field than the direction of the scramble. in a case like that the cover man should have never let the WR run free especially when the WR turned his route to the middle of the field closing the gap between the QB and himself. The WR did his job. go deep and work your way towards the opposite side of the field.

So the cover assignment was blown. the CB opposite should stay with his man till the QB crosses the line of scrimmage then take the best angle to put himself between the goal line and the QB to make a play.

Rolling coverage on a busted play is standard. everything is not suppose to fall apart. He is suppose to be among the last line of defense to prevent a TD. this breaking down does not fly. this is pee-wee football stuff

He blew the assignment. I wish i recorded the game. who was the numb nut?

Tough to determine. White? Vaccaro? You could lump them together? Whomever was to blame, that was a face-palm moment.

dizzle88 · 11-11-2014, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

now i would agree with you except for one fact. The WR came open from the opposite side of the field than the direction of the scramble. in a case like that the cover man should have never let the WR run free especially when the WR turned his route to the middle of the field closing the gap between the QB and himself. The WR did his job. go deep and work your way towards the opposite side of the field.

So the cover assignment was blown. the CB opposite should stay with his man till the QB crosses the line of scrimmage then take the best angle to put himself between the goal line and the QB to make a play.

Rolling coverage on a busted play is standard. everything is not suppose to fall apart. He is suppose to be among the last line of defense to prevent a TD. this breaking down does not fly. this is pee-wee football stuff

He blew the assignment. I wish i recorded the game. who was the numb nut?

It was a mixture of both vaccaro and whites fault

Corey white played the short zone and left crabtree for Vaccaro, but no one covered Vernon Davis in the middle of the field (white should have had him because he was closest and not covering anyone)
Instead Vaccaro saw Kaep scramble and Davis completely wide open and came flying down to cover Davis, leaving Crabtree completely wide open.

saintsfan1976 · 11-11-2014, 09:24 AM

Seems Vaccaro should have picked up the WR after White but who knows.

Mardigras9 · 11-12-2014, 02:35 PM

Safety should never let anyone get behind him while the QB is behind the line, cardinal rule.
Allowing 7 or 8 seconds for a play to develop anyway was a killer.

It's over though, add it to the "ways they have blown games" list for the season and make sure it doesn't happen again. Play mistake free, take command of this division, and try to get on a role through the playoffs.

11-11-2014, 09:13 AM	#11
Threaded by dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,359 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 It's been painful to watch. Almost seems like a mental issue now. I think it all starts with training camp, no mental toughness to close out games because the players had it easy in greenbrier. The team that trained in NOLA in sweltering heat never let up off the gas pedal
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11-11-2014, 09:16 AM	#12
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Sean Payton talks about overtime loss to 49ers Originally Posted by teddybarexxx you know why that 4th and 10 play worked because you have to be mindful of the scrambling abilites of kap. once he started moving with the football you have a tendacy of looking in the back field so to speak to make sure he dont get a way for a scramble for 10 yards. he has done it before. matter of a fact he scrambled before for like 7 or 8 yards for a 1st down on a previous play. to me the biggest stat that caused us the game is turnovers. protect the football we may came out with a win. now i would agree with you except for one fact. The WR came open from the opposite side of the field than the direction of the scramble. in a case like that the cover man should have never let the WR run free especially when the WR turned his route to the middle of the field closing the gap between the QB and himself. The WR did his job. go deep and work your way towards the opposite side of the field. So the cover assignment was blown. the CB opposite should stay with his man till the QB crosses the line of scrimmage then take the best angle to put himself between the goal line and the QB to make a play. Rolling coverage on a busted play is standard. everything is not suppose to fall apart. He is suppose to be among the last line of defense to prevent a TD. this breaking down does not fly. this is pee-wee football stuff He blew the assignment. I wish i recorded the game. who was the numb nut? teddybarexxx likes this.
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11-11-2014, 09:20 AM	#13
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sean Payton talks about overtime loss to 49ers Originally Posted by hagan714 now i would agree with you except for one fact. The WR came open from the opposite side of the field than the direction of the scramble. in a case like that the cover man should have never let the WR run free especially when the WR turned his route to the middle of the field closing the gap between the QB and himself. The WR did his job. go deep and work your way towards the opposite side of the field. So the cover assignment was blown. the CB opposite should stay with his man till the QB crosses the line of scrimmage then take the best angle to put himself between the goal line and the QB to make a play. Rolling coverage on a busted play is standard. everything is not suppose to fall apart. He is suppose to be among the last line of defense to prevent a TD. this breaking down does not fly. this is pee-wee football stuff He blew the assignment. I wish i recorded the game. who was the numb nut? Tough to determine. White? Vaccaro? You could lump them together? Whomever was to blame, that was a face-palm moment. hagan714 likes this.

11-11-2014, 09:24 AM	#14
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,359	Re: Sean Payton talks about overtime loss to 49ers Originally Posted by hagan714 now i would agree with you except for one fact. The WR came open from the opposite side of the field than the direction of the scramble. in a case like that the cover man should have never let the WR run free especially when the WR turned his route to the middle of the field closing the gap between the QB and himself. The WR did his job. go deep and work your way towards the opposite side of the field. So the cover assignment was blown. the CB opposite should stay with his man till the QB crosses the line of scrimmage then take the best angle to put himself between the goal line and the QB to make a play. Rolling coverage on a busted play is standard. everything is not suppose to fall apart. He is suppose to be among the last line of defense to prevent a TD. this breaking down does not fly. this is pee-wee football stuff He blew the assignment. I wish i recorded the game. who was the numb nut? It was a mixture of both vaccaro and whites fault Corey white played the short zone and left crabtree for Vaccaro, but no one covered Vernon Davis in the middle of the field (white should have had him because he was closest and not covering anyone) Instead Vaccaro saw Kaep scramble and Davis completely wide open and came flying down to cover Davis, leaving Crabtree completely wide open.

11-11-2014, 09:24 AM	#15
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sean Payton talks about overtime loss to 49ers Seems Vaccaro should have picked up the WR after White but who knows.

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11-12-2014, 02:35 PM	#16
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Sean Payton talks about overtime loss to 49ers Safety should never let anyone get behind him while the QB is behind the line, cardinal rule. Allowing 7 or 8 seconds for a play to develop anyway was a killer. It's over though, add it to the "ways they have blown games" list for the season and make sure it doesn't happen again. Play mistake free, take command of this division, and try to get on a role through the playoffs.

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