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hagan714 11-11-2014 08:45 AM

Let Us All Just Face the Facts
 
Our offense is old and any window for another super bowl win is all about shut now. :brood:

I guess it is time to accept the fact and get ready to start rebuilding ASAP.:confused:

I hope this angers all saint fans! :twisted:

Lambast away I can handle it.

Schmohams 11-11-2014 08:52 AM

Re: Let Us All Just Face the Facts
 
I think the Saints offense could be dominating in all facets of attack if Brees didn't turn it over so much.

Euphoria 11-11-2014 08:55 AM

Re: Let Us All Just Face the Facts
 
Despite our offense struggling at times... I don't think that is so much the issue as our Defense is.

Looks like the D turned the corner and then this past week they started getting a bit fancy on us and I wasn't to happy with what was going on with the play of our D and giving up to many running plays.

I am all for rebuilding and I think in a way we have started the process. We have no real leaders on D because of it and that is lacking in our play. They need to find themselves.

saintsfan1976 11-11-2014 08:58 AM

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Mistakes.

We make more of them now than we ever did.

Is that a function of age? coaching? desire? ability?

Or all of them?

dizzle88 11-11-2014 09:01 AM

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We definitely need to look at getting younger and we need some leaders on D

Lord knows Vaccaro is not a leader on D, who would want to follow that example? Missing tackles and blowing coverages

We need some speed at LB, I'd love it if we could sign lavonte David from Tampa, that guy is a beast.

73Saint 11-11-2014 09:02 AM

Re: Let Us All Just Face the Facts
 
I found myself watching the Philly game last night, & I hate to admit but I started to get mad at Drew Brees. Not b/c of his poor play of late, but because of his contract. I know, it's a business and he deserved what he got. But everyone knows this is a team sport. People flourish or fail, in large part, because of their surroundings. Drew Brees was great (& still is) but the people and players around him helped catapult this team to the next level. Sean Payton no doubt helped elevate Drew Brees' game, as did so many others both offensively and defensively; and so many of those Key players are gone now, because we essentially cannot afford to keep them. I realize some are in decline so better to release now than later. But you can't tell me leadership and locker room presence don't play a major role in team success. I think we are seeing a product of that now. Good or bad, right or wrong.

AsylumGuido 11-11-2014 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 73Saint (Post 624204)
I found myself watching the Philly game last night, & I hate to admit but I started to get mad at Drew Brees. Not b/c of his poor play of late, but because of his contract. I know, it's a business and he deserved what he got. But everyone knows this is a team sport. People flourish or fail, in large part, because of their surroundings. Drew Brees was great (& still is) but the people and players around him helped catapult this team to the next level. Sean Payton no doubt helped elevate Drew Brees' game, as did so many others both offensively and defensively; and so many of those Key players are gone now, because we essentially cannot afford to keep them. I realize some are in decline so better to release now than later. But you can't tell me leadership and locker room presence don't play a major role in team success. I think we are seeing a product of that now. Good or bad, right or wrong.

Not the contract crap again. :rolleyes: If you compare Brees' contract to those around the league and those about to come about in the next couple of years for FAR lessor QB's you would see that the Saints got a good deal out of it. By 2016 the salary cap is going to be more than $30 million higher than it was when Brees got his deal. His salary is counting LESS percentage-wise against the cap and that is even before the very likely restructuring which will take place next off-season. Blaming Brees' pay is a totally misguided reaction to simple bad luck and frustration as a fan.

Personally, I feel very fortunate that the Saints are still in the position they are in. The division is theirs to win now and anything can happen in the playoffs.

Budsdrinker 11-11-2014 09:19 AM

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Not so much that the offense is getting old but the same old stubbornness to come out throwing to start a game when we have been running the ball well. Again the first 7 plays called against SF were pass plays and the 3rd play was an INT that set up a TD. You can't start a game with consecutive 3 and outs.

Danno 11-11-2014 09:21 AM

Re: Let Us All Just Face the Facts
 
In today's NFL windows open faster than they close.

Jamessr 11-11-2014 09:24 AM

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*yawn*
GTFO...


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