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WillSaints81 11-11-2014 06:27 PM

Should the cards hang on and take the 1 seed
 
We have a chance to reverse our west coast road fortunes. I do not think Drew Stanton is taking the cards to the sb and they do not deserve to be there with him. Therefore, I think either us or Green Bay will win there. That said, with how GB has been playing at home do we even have a prayer to be in a close game with them in January in Lambeau?

Arizona beats Detroit this week then they should be able to beat KC or StL, Seattle at home, and last game at SF all they would have to do is win to take a bye. Green Bay I see only losing one more game but they could actually beat NE in three weeks, the team I think they would lose to.

As a 4 seed we may be in great shape, hosting the lions in the wild card round or Cowboys. Then going to Arizona in the divisional. If we win both those games we go to Green Bay or maybe Philadelphia in the NFCCG. If we go to GB it will be harder to pull off unless SF ends up taking the 6 seed over Dallas.

That said if Philadelphia loses to Seattle and Dallas loses at Chicago and we win in Chicago we stand a strong chance at 10-6 and taking the 3 seed because of Philadelphia's likely 4-0 IC record. Though that would suck because we could draw SF in the wild card round.

Our best bet is to take the 4 seed and hope Arizona is the 1 seed or SF is the 6 seed because SF will beat Philadelphia. Then we can still go to Arizona, if this west coast first game home winning trend is to ever end, then it has to be with the team with a backup qb and having the sb home curse.

dizzle88 11-11-2014 06:36 PM

Re: Should the cards hang on and take the 1 seed
 
Atlanta are only one game behind us, the way we are playing there's a chance we don't even make the playoffs in the worst division.

Danno 11-11-2014 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 624385)
Atlanta are only one game behind us, the way we are playing there's a chance we don't even make the playoffs in the worst division.

Seriously?

Atlanta's remaining games...
@Carolina
Cleveland
Arizona
@Green Bay
Pittsburgh
@New Orleans
Carolina

dizzle88 11-11-2014 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 624386)
Seriously?

Atlanta's remaining games...
@Carolina
Cleveland
Arizona
@Green Bay
Pittsburgh
@New Orleans
Carolina

Yeah seriously

Everyone is saying its possible we make a winning streak, its also possible the falcons could

No one saw the giants making a run in 2011, anything can happen

Plus with the way we've been playing, how can we be confident we won't continue to throw games?

WhoDat!656 11-11-2014 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 624387)
Yeah seriously

Everyone is saying its possible we make a winning streak, its also possible the falcons could

No one saw the giants making a run in 2011, anything can happen

Plus with the way we've been playing, how can we be confident we won't continue to throw games?

The Giants have as much in common with the failclowns as a crocodile does to a chameleon.

The Saints WILL win the division and finish no worse than 10-6

dizzle88 11-11-2014 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 624388)
The Giants have as much in common with the failclowns as a crocodile does to a chameleon.

The Saints WILL win the division and finish no worse than 10-6

Whilst I wouldn't complain about that at all, I just don't see us only losing one more game, if the falcons get on a winning streak we are in serious trouble.

blackangold 11-11-2014 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 624386)
Seriously?

Atlanta's remaining games...
@Carolina
Cleveland
Arizona
@Green Bay
Pittsburgh
@New Orleans
Carolina

Yup...

Prediction for the NFCS time:

NO 10-6
ATL 6-10
CAR 5-9-1
TB 3-13

With the remaining games for ATL there is no way they catch us. Despite how critical I am of the team I know they can easily go 6-1 to finish the season, hell 11-5 is possible if they really pull it together.

WillSaints81 11-11-2014 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 624389)
Whilst I wouldn't complain about that at all, I just don't see us only losing one more game, if the falcons get on a winning streak we are in serious trouble.


They could win the next three but I think they lose in GB and its up to us to beat them in the dome. If we lose that, that will be an embarrassment. However, we are likely going to have more common wins. We could lose at Pittsburgh and Chicago and still be 9-7 if we beat Atlanta week 16. I think TB is not beating us last game with nothing to play for but pride. Atlanta loses at GB and at us they are 8-8.

I mean I guess people think we're gonna lose the next two. Has anyone noticed the bengals are not as good as their record lately? They played awful against Jacksonville and Cleveland. Allowed Carolina to tie and got steamrolled in Foxbourough and Indy. What is Cincinatti gonna do to us? Dalton is not clutch like CK and Lewis is nothing like Harbaugh. The ravens is a worry and so is Pittsburgh. But I actually think Chicago is on the verge of quitting and we may get a easy win week 15. Say we lose one of the next two weeks and at Pittsburgh, as long as we beat Carolina and Atlanta at home we are fine as well as winning in TB the last game to take the division.

But I am worried about Atlanta as well. But I don't think they can win out. And I believe we can go 9-7 or 10-6 beating Chicago and TB on the road and winning at home against Carolina, Atlanta, and Cincinatti at home. Yeah, Baltimore will be tough though. However that game is on MNF we're gonna lay a egg in primetime at home? Idk.

dizzle88 11-11-2014 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 624395)
They could win the next three but I think they lose in GB and its up to us to beat them in the dome. If we lose that, that will be an embarrassment. However, we are likely going to have more common wins. We could lose at Pittsburgh and Chicago and still be 9-7 if we beat Atlanta week 16. I think TB is not beating us last game with nothing to play for but pride. Atlanta loses at GB and at us they are 8-8.

I mean I guess people think we're gonna lose the next two. Has anyone noticed the bengals are not as good as their record lately? They played awful against Jacksonville and Cleveland. Allowed Carolina to tie and got steamrolled in Foxbourough and Indy. What is Cincinatti gonna do to us? Dalton is not clutch like CK and Lewis is nothing like Harbaugh. The ravens is a worry and so is Pittsburgh. But I actually think Chicago is on the verge of quitting and we may get a easy win week 15. Say we lose one of the next two weeks and at Pittsburgh, as long as we beat Carolina and Atlanta at home we are fine as well as winning in TB the last game to take the division.

But I am worried about Atlanta as well. But I don't think they can win out. And I believe we can go 9-7 or 10-6 beating Chicago and TB on the road and winning at home against Carolina, Atlanta, and Cincinatti at home. Yeah, Baltimore will be tough though. However that game is on MNF we're gonna lay a egg in primetime at home? Idk.

I hear your points about the Bengals, but all week leading up to the 9ers game all we heard was how Kaep misses wide open receivers and forces passes

He did neither vs us, he made some mistakes due to a crappy O line, but he didn't force passes or miss wide open receivers, his receivers dropped a ton of passes

The Bengals may have struggled, but I'd put money on them being on point against us - because every team that has had struggles gets it together against us.

VegasSaint9 11-11-2014 10:52 PM

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I think they have a really good chance of going winless in that entire string of games... They might split with carolina though. Other than that...yeah I say they win at best two of those games...

|Mitch| 11-12-2014 12:40 AM

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I can't see Atlanta winning more than 2 games and that's assuming they somehow sweep the Panties...

SloMotion 11-12-2014 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 624379)
... As a 4 seed we may be in great shape, hosting the lions in the wild card round or Cowboys ...

Uh-oh, that could possibly mean another LIVE Gameday Thread with SloMotion, :shock: ... you guys gonna' be able to handle it? ;) (da-da-daaa ~the suspense builds~, :lol:) ... though I do feel that's how it's gonna' shake out if DET pulls their annual second-half implosion act ... the NFC North also may wind up being decided Wk #17 @ Lambeau and I really don't see the Lions winning there in December ... and I dunno', I think you give Stanton too much credit. Prior to Palmer being out, I pegged this one as a Lions' road loss, but Stanton being in there tilts the scales against the Cards the rest of the way. He's great for a game or two but has a hard time putting together a longer stretch. :)


excerpts from the Lions Live Gameday Thread:

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 619408)
Your quiet confidence is really starting to piss me off

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 619413)
I couldn't say anything about it all game, I brought it up in the chat just once. Because of that I hope we don't play the lions for a long time again unless its a primetime game where I can see it on my tv.


jeanpierre 11-12-2014 06:02 AM

Re: Should the cards hang on and take the 1 seed
 
Like the Cardinals team, really do...

I expect Cardinals will collapse with Stanton at Quarterback...

That said, they've got the best coach in football right now in Bruce Arians...

I wouldn't bet against Bruce Arians...

SloMotion 11-12-2014 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 624428)
Like the Cardinals team, really do...

I expect Cardinals will collapse with Stanton at Quarterback...

That said, they've got the best coach in football right now in Bruce Arians...

I wouldn't bet against Bruce Arians...

Yeah, IDK too much about Arians but I did kinda' expect ARI to finish with the #1 seed ... DET has a history of losing when they travel there as well. They got two solid corners in Peterson/Cromartie and Fitzgerald is always a force to be reckoned with ... plus home-cooking spells "disaster" for DET ... except now you insert Drew Stanton, :rolleyes: ... I've seen plenty of him at Michigan State and as a Lions backup ... I just don't think he has enough juice to take 'em all they way to a #1 seed ... though I guess I wouldn't mind it with his Michigan connections & all, :).

Mardigras9 11-12-2014 11:11 AM

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Carolina has a better chance than ATL of stringing enough wins. They have 3 home and 3 road:
Falcons
Vickings
Saints
Bucs
Browns
Falcons

Not exactly a difficult stretch.

Rugby Saint II 11-12-2014 01:18 PM

Re: Should the cards hang on and take the 1 seed
 
As long as we win out the rest of the way then I'll feel good about our SB chances. If we don't win out...........well, it will be a long off season.

WillSaints81 11-15-2014 08:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 624427)
Uh-oh, that could possibly mean another LIVE Gameday Thread with SloMotion, :shock: ... you guys gonna' be able to handle it? ;) (da-da-daaa ~the suspense builds~, :lol:) ... though I do feel that's how it's gonna' shake out if DET pulls their annual second-half implosion act ... the NFC North also may wind up being decided Wk #17 @ Lambeau and I really don't see the Lions winning there in December ... and I dunno', I think you give Stanton too much credit. Prior to Palmer being out, I pegged this one as a Lions' road loss, but Stanton being in there tilts the scales against the Cards the rest of the way. He's great for a game or two but has a hard time putting together a longer stretch. :)


excerpts from the Lions Live Gameday Thread:

Except in the superdome the lions really do have no shot. We should have won in Detroit and we didn't. Considering the lions lack playoff experience and have a QB who gets sacked a ton how can they suddenly win their first playoff game on the road against a seasoned playoff team? It is just not likely to happen. And this game will be on television for me too.

If it did happen it will because of the receivers they have. Which is why the saints are going to have to run the ball and get Graham involved.

WillSaints81 11-15-2014 08:56 PM

Re: Should the cards hang on and take the 1 seed
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 624428)
Like the Cardinals team, really do...

I expect Cardinals will collapse with Stanton at Quarterback...

That said, they've got the best coach in football right now in Bruce Arians...

I wouldn't bet against Bruce Arians...

They have a good RB who early in the season was not healthy. Lately he has come on.

Lions-On the road their defense may not be as good. Ellington also can exploit the lions weakness against the screen. Cards also have a receiver lions won't be thinking about covering which is John Brown because then they run the risk of Fitzgerald or Floyd burning them. The cards secondary is not great but Stafford only throws to Calvin and Tate really. The real target against the cards is the tightend but lions don't utilize this much. Cards can stop the run also and thats trouble for a committee that looks bad so far.

@Seattle-I see this as loss clearly.

@Atlanta-Hmm. I think they lose but cards defense has owned Ryan bad. Also Ellington killed them last year and has a chance to do so again.

KC-Because of who the QB is, I think cards can pull this out. This is a good run defense against a run first offense. KC lately has allowed more rushing yards than usual so Ellington might get something off the ground. Also KC and their secondary will be focusing on Floyd and Fitz leaving Brown open. The downside for cards here is Kelce against their biggest defensive weakness.

@StL-The team really has nothing to play for. But short rest assuming cards beat KC I give the rams this one. But cards have better talent on key offensive positions.

Seattle-The game is at home. Seattle usually has trouble once a year with them. It could be this game. Also, Seattle has lost in SD and St.Louis this year.

@SF-They beat SF week 3 with this qb and SF hasn't shown to be any better at home than on the road either. If cards have a bye and division title riding on this they could win.

Even if they lose the next three, they could win three of the last four. That is still 11-5 and the division.

foreverfan 11-15-2014 09:19 PM

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If we win the Superbowl this year, hell may never taught out.

Hell will taugh ...

SloMotion 11-16-2014 05:16 AM

Re: Should the cards hang on and take the 1 seed
 
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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 624913)
Except in the superdome the lions really do have no shot. We should have won in Detroit and we didn't. Considering the lions lack playoff experience and have a QB who gets sacked a ton how can they suddenly win their first playoff game on the road against a seasoned playoff team? It is just not likely to happen. And this game will be on television for me too.

If it did happen it will because of the receivers they have. Which is why the saints are going to have to run the ball and get Graham involved.

Yeah, I tend to agree and my advice to Lions slappies was that if they couldn't win convincingly at home in Wk #7 vs a quality team, not to get too excited about the playoffs. You guys talk about losing the last three games by nine pts? The Lions have won the last three by 6, not exactly the mark of a dominant team. The first thing that popped into my head after that game was that DET would be a wildcard heading to the Dome in the first round & the results would probably differ. The biggest difference between a potential matchup this postseason and 2011 are the additions of Golden Tate, Glover Quin, James Ihedigbo & a few other veterans/coaches, so lack of playoff experience may not be as big an issue as one may think. It's all about Drew Brees, IMO.

"Never get too high, never get too low" ~ Jim Caldwell, H/C Detroit Lions ... first time I've ever seriously quoted a Detroit Lions coach, :lol:. If anything, that's all I wanted to get across to you guys in that game.


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