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Barry from MS 11-16-2014 06:09 PM

Re: Seriously wanted to help the board out with what you saw today
 
As a team...YUP. We suck. We have some good individual efforts out there, but as a collective bunch we're just a gaggle in fancy uniforms and shiny helmets.

Rsanders24 11-16-2014 06:15 PM

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We can't strike quickly on offense...we throw passes to the line of scrimmage...that aren't screens.

I have no clue why we aren't explosive on offense but I'm not glued to the tv when our offense goes on the field.

AllSaints 11-16-2014 06:42 PM

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Brees lost that it factor he had.... Its gone.... not just this game but all season he just hasn't been right ....

spkb25 11-16-2014 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 625335)
We can't strike quickly on offense...we throw passes to the line of scrimmage...that aren't screens.

I have no clue why we aren't explosive on offense but I'm not glued to the tv when our offense goes on the field.

oline cant hold up long enough

spkb25 11-16-2014 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AllSaints (Post 625344)
Brees lost that it factor he had.... Its gone.... not just this game but all season he just hasn't been right ....

Yeah, not so much, but the oline is killing us.

Hey, for fans that hate Brees, and simply don't understand what we have, go ask dem Eagles fans why the grass isn't always greener. They complained about Foles all year, and oh Sanchex was gonna be great, yeah...

AllSaints 11-16-2014 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 625347)
Yeah, not so much, but the oline is killing us.

Hey, for fans that hate Brees, and simply don't understand what we have, go ask dem Eagles fans why the grass isn't always greener. They complained about Foles all year, and oh Sanchex was gonna be great, yeah...

Really you have noticed a drop off from Brees ?

gulfgambler 11-16-2014 07:02 PM

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Is there a stat where we throw a check down pass? if so, we probably lead the league. We also lead the league in check down passes under 3 yards or less including minus yards. Brees does not get sacked, but we area not vertical enough to contend w/ our swiss cheese defense.

Rsanders24 11-16-2014 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 625347)
Yeah, not so much, but the oline is killing us.

Hey, for fans that hate Brees, and simply don't understand what we have, go ask dem Eagles fans why the grass isn't always greener. They complained about Foles all year, and oh Sanchex was gonna be great, yeah...

First of all I don't hate Brees but he can't get all the credit when we win and none of the blame when things aren't perfect for him. Clearly either something is wrong with him or he is falling off quickly. With the passes we throw now reminds me of a Chad Pennington type of offense. People keep putting all the blame on the defense and offensive line...you only need 3 to 4 seconds to get the ball down the field but after watching this game it doesn't matter if we throw the ball down the field because it won't be accurate anyway.

RailBoss 11-16-2014 07:42 PM

Re: Seriously wanted to help the board out with what you saw today
 
Barry said it we have Shiny Helmets you can see the dome lights reflection really bright, that's something!

spkb25 11-16-2014 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rsanders24 (Post 625356)
First of all I don't hate Brees but he can't get all the credit when we win and none of the blame when things aren't perfect for him. Clearly either something is wrong with him or he is falling off quickly. With the passes we throw now reminds me of a Chad Pennington type of offense. People keep putting all the blame on the defense and offensive line...you only need 3 to 4 seconds to get the ball down the field but after watching this game it doesn't matter if we throw the ball down the field because it won't be accurate anyway.

I give Brees his share of **** when he deserves it, but he is rarely off on his throws, although today he has a bad one. I watched, I think last week, two drops on pretty long throws that were on the money.

Brees made a terrible decision in the red zone last weak. I have seen him make some bad decision this year, but most times he starts that **** when he feels he has to do too much. The oline has't been good enough this year. They played well for like 2 or 3 games out of 10.

I have watched other teams and I know what other qb's look like. I am not for ever trading a hall of famer unless he can't get it done, but if we improve that oline no doubt our offense looks different again.

The thing none of us realize is how much goes into providing extra blocks because our oline is week, so when Strief is out and we have to go help out on that side, how much is that hurting our passing attack? What does that prevent us from doing? Our oline has been banged up for a few weeks and just not that great. Teams are getting pressure, and don't think for a second that the lack of sacks isn't what Drew does, because it is.

Football is the one sport, at least in my estimation, where you really have to have a team effort, not individual efforts, and right now we are not good as a team.


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