Mixed reviews on Kenny Vaccaro's comments; Payton likes his passion

papz · 11-18-2014, 06:45 AM

METAIRIE, La. -- New Orleans Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro was outspoken about his growing frustrations after Sunday's 27-10 loss to the Cincinnati Bengals.

Among other topics, Vaccaro said the Saints' defensive chemistry hasn't been the same this season after losing so many veterans in the offseason and that he's been "embarrassed" by how undisciplined the Saints look on defense.

Saints linebacker and captain Curtis Lofton said he doesn't think such frustrations should be handled through the media.

"He's not the only player that feels that way, and there's been numerous guys that have expressed the same feelings. But there's a different type of way of doing it," Lofton said. "That's how it's been handled in the past, and that's how it needs to be handled in the future, too."

Read more: Mixed reviews on Kenny Vaccaro's comments; Payton likes his passion - ESPN

saintsfan1976 · 11-18-2014, 06:59 AM

At least someone is showing passion.

Where is Akeem Hicks this year?

Mardigras9 · 11-18-2014, 10:21 AM

After all the fan comments after the game about how none of the players seam to "care" or how they have just "given up", it's nice to see players take a stand and try to negate that belief.

dizzle88 · 11-18-2014, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Mardigras9

After all the fan comments after the game about how none of the players seam to "care" or how they have just "given up", it's nice to see players take a stand and try to negate that belief.

Talk is still cheap, anyone can put in a bad performance and talk about how p***ed off they are because they played terrible

Only way I'll believe they truly care is if they show it on the field.

Audiotom · 11-18-2014, 10:39 AM

make an open field tackle Kenny V

hagan714 · 11-18-2014, 11:06 AM

such frustrations should be handled through the media.

bingo.

the biggest issue raised it's ugly head in the middle of last year when Greer went down. we did nothing to address the issue in the off season. so far i have not seen it.

that is the issue with our secondary. no true CB to start opposite Lewis.

Utah_Saint · 11-18-2014, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

such frustrations should be handled through the media.

bingo.

the biggest issue raised it's ugly head in the middle of last year when Greer went down. we did nothing to address the issue in the off season. so far i have not seen it.

that is the issue with our secondary. no true CB to start opposite Lewis.

It's pretty easy to see that now but at the time it didn't look like there was a major need to address CB in the offseason. Patrick Robinson was coming back from injury and he looked great the season before. On top of that, Corey White was the third CB and, who statistically played as well as Greer before he went down.

Halo · 11-18-2014, 10:58 PM

It's great to see ANY passion about the game and profession from ANY player on this team because Sunday they looked about as passionate and stimulated as eunuch in a whore house.

Talk may be cheap but it's AMAZING that he is the ONLY player on the team who is neanderthal enough to be totally ticked off and embarrassed by his, and his teams', performance.

This team lacks testosterone!

joker-saint · 11-19-2014, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

It's pretty easy to see that now but at the time it didn't look like there was a major need to address CB in the offseason. Patrick Robinson was coming back from injury and he looked great the season before. On top of that, Corey White was the third CB and, who statistically played as well as Greer before he went down.

Looks like the Saints would have been in better shape if they had kept Bailey. Oh well, guess we will see what the team decides to do now. How can they play with so few healthy secondary players? We are going to see alot of shots down the field if the Saints can't correct their mistakes out there. I'm still optimistic, but it looks like best case scenario will be a number 6 seed in the playoffs. Not going to hold my breath for that one. Also, if Drew Brees doesn't get the protection he needs up front and their run game doesn't improve its going to be ugly over the next 6 games.

skymike · 11-20-2014, 06:35 AM

im alright with it.
It looks like we werent ready to switch to that Youth Movement yet.
He's not saying the other guys arent putting it out. He's just saying they
havent gelled yet.

11-18-2014, 06:45 AM	#1
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,774	Mixed reviews on Kenny Vaccaro's comments; Payton likes his passion METAIRIE, La. -- New Orleans Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro was outspoken about his growing frustrations after Sunday's 27-10 loss to the Cincinnati Bengals. Among other topics, Vaccaro said the Saints' defensive chemistry hasn't been the same this season after losing so many veterans in the offseason and that he's been "embarrassed" by how undisciplined the Saints look on defense. Saints linebacker and captain Curtis Lofton said he doesn't think such frustrations should be handled through the media. "He's not the only player that feels that way, and there's been numerous guys that have expressed the same feelings. But there's a different type of way of doing it," Lofton said. "That's how it's been handled in the past, and that's how it needs to be handled in the future, too." Read more: Mixed reviews on Kenny Vaccaro's comments; Payton likes his passion - ESPN Attached Thumbnails
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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,996 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Mixed reviews on Kenny Vaccaro's comments; Payton likes his passion At least someone is showing passion. Where is Akeem Hicks this year? Halo and QBREES9 like this.

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Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Mixed reviews on Kenny Vaccaro's comments; Payton likes his passion After all the fan comments after the game about how none of the players seam to "care" or how they have just "given up", it's nice to see players take a stand and try to negate that belief. Halo and st thomas like this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,523	Re: Mixed reviews on Kenny Vaccaro's comments; Payton likes his passion Originally Posted by Mardigras9 After all the fan comments after the game about how none of the players seam to "care" or how they have just "given up", it's nice to see players take a stand and try to negate that belief. Talk is still cheap, anyone can put in a bad performance and talk about how p***ed off they are because they played terrible Only way I'll believe they truly care is if they show it on the field.

11-18-2014, 10:39 AM	#5
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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Mixed reviews on Kenny Vaccaro's comments; Payton likes his passion Originally Posted by hagan714 such frustrations should be handled through the media. bingo. the biggest issue raised it's ugly head in the middle of last year when Greer went down. we did nothing to address the issue in the off season. so far i have not seen it. that is the issue with our secondary. no true CB to start opposite Lewis. It's pretty easy to see that now but at the time it didn't look like there was a major need to address CB in the offseason. Patrick Robinson was coming back from injury and he looked great the season before. On top of that, Corey White was the third CB and, who statistically played as well as Greer before he went down.

11-18-2014, 10:58 PM	#8
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,867 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Mixed reviews on Kenny Vaccaro's comments; Payton likes his passion It's great to see ANY passion about the game and profession from ANY player on this team because Sunday they looked about as passionate and stimulated as eunuch in a whore house. Talk may be cheap but it's AMAZING that he is the ONLY player on the team who is neanderthal enough to be totally ticked off and embarrassed by his, and his teams', performance. This team lacks testosterone! skymike likes this.

11-19-2014, 08:48 AM	#9
joker-saint 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 382 Blog Entries: 12	Re: Mixed reviews on Kenny Vaccaro's comments; Payton likes his passion Originally Posted by Utah_Saint It's pretty easy to see that now but at the time it didn't look like there was a major need to address CB in the offseason. Patrick Robinson was coming back from injury and he looked great the season before. On top of that, Corey White was the third CB and, who statistically played as well as Greer before he went down. Looks like the Saints would have been in better shape if they had kept Bailey. Oh well, guess we will see what the team decides to do now. How can they play with so few healthy secondary players? We are going to see alot of shots down the field if the Saints can't correct their mistakes out there. I'm still optimistic, but it looks like best case scenario will be a number 6 seed in the playoffs. Not going to hold my breath for that one. Also, if Drew Brees doesn't get the protection he needs up front and their run game doesn't improve its going to be ugly over the next 6 games.

11-20-2014, 06:35 AM	#10
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Mixed reviews on Kenny Vaccaro's comments; Payton likes his passion im alright with it. It looks like we werent ready to switch to that Youth Movement yet. He's not saying the other guys arent putting it out. He's just saying they havent gelled yet.

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