Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

Right, and why do they pay scouts again for? If it's up to the coordinators only why does every team have scouting departments?

Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

scouting depts report to the coordinators.

it is the coordinators job to take the reports and and rank the players.

The scouts will beat on desks for players they really like and try to get them moved up the board with the coordinators,

the final ranking of players is reached with the final agreement of the coordinators.

when the draft is going on if a coordinator really wants a player it can get comical by all reports.

that is were SP and Mickey have the final call as to what is best for the club.

but in no way does the coordinator get stuck with players and told to make it work.

Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

Yup.

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RG3 is still a topic? love his deep ball but that is about it. then damaged goods and locker room chemistry issues? pass. give a troubled RB first.

If we were to take a QB to develop my vote goes to Brett Hundley UCLA. He is a solid prospect that needs a few years to develop. think Aron rogers time frame here without the first round cost. second round

Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

I rather let RG3 sit and develop behind Brees. He can also heal his body. I believed in RG3 before the draft. I believe in him now. Injuries stifled him so far.

Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

RG3 looked pretty damn good when he put up 400 yards of offense in his first career start against us

Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

Thats the only good game he's had... US!

Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

Brees retires as a Saint after 2017 season unless the Texans want to trade JJ Watt for him next year.

Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

now there is a man with a plan

pro bowler for pro bowler

or

hall a fame player for a future hall of fame future hall of fame player

we take on the injury risk ;)

Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

Give Brees one year of decent protection and see if this conversation is still valid.

Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

Sorry, but you are wrong about this. The Saints scouts report directly to the Director of Player Personnel, Ryan Pace. Pace, in turn, reports directly to Mickey Loomis. The defensive coordinator is not in the loop in the Saints organization.

Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

Not sure how anyone can know that

No one here is in the organisation so they don't know who has a say and who doesn't

I have to believe that Offensive and defensive coordinators have some input in what players are being drafted.

Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

sounds like i need to to ask some questions. off to the saints i go. none of my connection here would be of help. they would just laugh at me at on this one.

if this is the case i owe Rob a big i am sorry for the saints have one of the most screwed up draft system in the NFL. Draft a square peg for a round hole and expect it to work geessshhhhh aint his fault.

Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

Who did we draft recently on defense that's a square peg in a round hole?

Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

I'm not thinking about life after Drew.

I'm thinking life after Goodwin.

Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

I would like to see Drew here for a few more years with great protection like he used to have. He's not comfortable with that line and it's very obvious. I will admit,he did look comfortable yesterday, and we saw the results of that. I would love to build a superior o line to protect Brees on his way out and give a good start to whoever comes in. Someone mentioned getting Cousins and I would not have a problem with that. I've been impressed with him the few times I got to watch him play. I feel pretty good about Griffin(Drews backup,not RG3),but I think Cousins would be a better option IMO.

Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

Primadona = RGIII.

PASS

Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

Drew has not forgotten how to play Quarterback. They O-Line is not that good.

Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

For those that feel tempted, please see exhibit the NY Jets... what a disaster at QB!

Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

Goodwin's play this season has impacted both guard spots.

Solidify the line and we'll get another 3-4 years of the Drew Brees we saw in Pittsburgh.

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just being generalizing in my statement.

If the DC is at the mercy of player operation and has to take what he gets than that is a risk i can see happening.

I would owe the site and Rob a huge apology.

IMO an approach like this to the drafting makes no sense whats so ever and would make me really worried about the front office organization as a whole.

Basic ideology is completely flawed.

Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

No doubt, could you imagine Drew with the Cowboys O-line?

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Sure would make our defense a lot more tolerable. Two words; clock management

Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

No doubt the DC and OC have some input at some point in time, but player personnel, GM and head coach would be the ones come up with the list first.

Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

Two more words...

Forty Burgers

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Clinched division

Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

Home game

Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

We are going to clinch the division and get a home game anyway. Maybe even two. If we get two home games in the playoffs I might pass straight out.

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After this weeks game we could probably get a 6th rounder for him. Make it happen Loomis........you know he's losing it fast. :roll:

Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

Throughout playoffs

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This is the whole problem. SP figures Drew is so good he can lack on the o-line. If he spent the money on the o-line and just paid Bush at safety we would have 4 more wins this year.

Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

The day Drew is not taking snaps on game day is the time I know
we are rebuilding!

Re: Saints thinking about life after Drew Brees
 

There are no QBs in this draft class other than Mariota that I like. I like a few young NFL backups. Hell, Mark Sanchez could run our offense decently. Did I say that? I hate USC. RG3=Aaron Brooks. We'd end up hearing Haslett's line every year how he's reducing the playbook so the QB can get it. LOL!

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I have a few emails out.

But my issue with player personnel as you have him is the basic job description does not fit it really.

I always viewed them as the Chatty Cathy's of the NFL. they know all the dirty. that is their job. A NFL Social Butterfly Society member

Or "THE" Executive Secretary.

I never really viewed him as the person who selects anyone. but i am sure there are times when he has the swaying statement or two. his research gathering must be flawless and his source must be solid. or your sunk.

So in no way do i minimize his role in any off this. he is huge in getting every thing ready for the off season

If the GM, OC or DC want more info on players he is the guy to get it.

just do not ask him to get the coffee. :) Do not get on his bad side either. last person you want to give you a bad recommendation for your next job.


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GM - i understand his role and to Mickey's credit he has done a solid job. It can not be easy when both DC and OC want a pick and refuse to budge

As soon as i get a response or two i will post it