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jnormand 12-01-2014 10:54 PM

Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
After a solid performance against Pittsburgh, Mark Ingram now has 767 yards rushing and is averaging 4.5 yards a carry.

With 4 games remaining, he needs to average just over 58 yards per game to hit 1000 yards for the season.

I still think we should try to resign this guy. He's proven himself a capable and dependable runner that can move the chains.

What say you?

jnormand 12-01-2014 10:55 PM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
I saw fit to use that as my 2000th post. It only took me 11 years to get there!

QBREES9 12-01-2014 11:33 PM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 628575)
After a solid performance against Pittsburgh, Mark Ingram now has 767 yards rushing and is averaging 4.5 yards a carry.

With 4 games remaining, he needs to average just over 58 yards per game to hit 1000 yards for the season.

I still think we should try to resign this guy. He's proven himself a capable and dependable runner that can move the chains.

What say you?

Resign him.

Rugby Saint II 12-03-2014 05:39 PM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
I know that we are a league of "what have you done for me lately"? He's played well lately.....but it took too long to suit me. I loved him coming out of Alabama but he's been a big disappointment until recently. Plus he has a thug mentality.jmho I'll pass.

GOULA SAINT 12-03-2014 05:47 PM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
I say sign him, 1 less position to worry about.

ScottF 12-03-2014 05:48 PM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
There was, of course, no way we could have signed his extension prior to this year: bad business, plus he had produced nothing.

The two burning questions are
How much will he cost?
Will he resign with us after we bypassed him once?

saintsfan1976 12-03-2014 06:10 PM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 628849)
I know that we are a league of "what have you done for me lately"? He's played well lately.....but it took too long to suit me. I loved him coming out of Alabama but he's been a big disappointment until recently. Plus he has a thug mentality.jmho I'll pass.

Strongly disagree.

He's battled multiple injuries and an offensive line learning a new scheme.

Throughout everything he's shown diligence, heart and kept his nose clean which have all earned him coach's and team's support.

NOW - that he's finally healthy - he's ripping off consistent 100+yard games.

What's not to like?

And I don't get the "thug mentality" comment at all. Are you an Auburn fan? :p

|Mitch| 12-03-2014 06:43 PM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
I see him getting signed, seems to me that Robinson/Ingram are our future and Thomas is getting fazed out of the offense somewhat... He doesn't get near the touches that he used to including screen passes

Jack Vegas 12-04-2014 12:17 AM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
Thug mentality? WTF?

Assuming that he's finally turned the corner and this isn't just him in a contract year, I like Ingram a lot. He's learned what it takes to be an NFL back. Hopefully we are able to re-sign him.

Saintsfan4ever 12-04-2014 01:18 AM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
Mark Ingram has earned my respect. Myself and most Saints fans were disappointed with his production in prior years, and Mark knew that the Saints nation and other pundits had labeled him a "bust". But he didn't give up. He kept making the most of his opportunities and hitting the holes and kept getting better and running smarter. And when the burden of carrying the load fell on his shoulders due to other injured players, he delivered. Now he's become an integral part of our offensive attack. Should we re-sign him? no question. We better hope we can re-sign him.

billyt81 12-04-2014 01:21 AM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 628849)
I know that we are a league of "what have you done for me lately"? He's played well lately.....but it took too long to suit me. I loved him coming out of Alabama but he's been a big disappointment until recently. Plus he has a thug mentality.jmho I'll pass.

I don't see the thug mentality. He speaks articulately and doesn't get in trouble. Besides you don't win football games with choir boys. The biggest thug in the league is Marshawn Lynch and I'd take him in a second. Actually, I think Ingram plays with outstanding effort on every play. I wish Jimmy Graham would play with the same attitude.

AlaskaSaints 12-04-2014 02:02 AM

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All I know is that when faced with 4th and goal from the 1 yard line, I shriek in horror when he is the lone back lined up.

Crusader 12-04-2014 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Saintsfan4ever (Post 628910)
Mark Ingram has earned my respect. Myself and most Saints fans were disappointed with his production in prior years, and Mark knew that the Saints nation and other pundits had labeled him a "bust". But he didn't give up. He kept making the most of his opportunities and hitting the holes and kept getting better and running smarter. And when the burden of carrying the load fell on his shoulders due to other injured players, he delivered. Now he's become an integral part of our offensive attack. Should we re-sign him? no question. We better hope we can re-sign him.

I agree with most of what you said. I'd like us to resign him but to me it just depends on his price. We cannot afford to overpay for him since we are pretty adept at finding FA RBs that can produce.

SloMotion 12-04-2014 05:38 AM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 628575)
... I still think we should try to resign this guy. He's proven himself a capable and dependable runner that can move the chains.

What say you?

Sign him. If you guys don't, somebody will.

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 628576)
I saw fit to use that as my 2000th post. It only took me 11 years to get there!

Rookie, ;). Just kidding, keep up the good work! :)

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Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 628919)
All I know is that when faced with 4th and goal from the 1 yard line, I shriek in horror when he is the lone back lined up.

Dang! I was hoping you had the soundtrack on that pic, :lol:.

saintsfan1976 12-04-2014 05:57 AM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
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Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 628919)
All I know is that when faced with 4th and goal from the 1 yard line, I shriek in horror when he is the lone back lined up.

and 5 guys can't block well enough to help him? Yeah, I'm horrified also

halloween 65 12-04-2014 06:52 AM

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In all fairness to Ingram, he has carried this team to the wins we have now. I would resign him if possible but with Brees contract, Grahams (overpaid in my opinion) contract, our 2 guards large contracts, Byrds contract(can't wait to see him healthy next year) Cams up next season and so on and so on, I think he will leave. I will hate to see him go but unless he takes a reduced contract and just wants to be remembered as a Saint, some team gets a possible great back that is on the rise.

SmashMouth 12-04-2014 07:41 AM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
It's all about the Benjamins ... if too many, then let's thank him for his contributions, even if he bloomed later than we had hoped. We have to learn to not be afraid to let go and look forward to new cheaper talent to replace more expensive talent... you know, the New England model, save for the most important position, QB.

Rugby Saint II 12-04-2014 02:13 PM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 628855)
Strongly disagree.

He's battled multiple injuries and an offensive line learning a new scheme.

Throughout everything he's shown diligence, heart and kept his nose clean which have all earned him coach's and team's support.

NOW - that he's finally healthy - he's ripping off consistent 100+yard games.

What's not to like?

And I don't get the "thug mentality" comment at all.
Are you an Auburn fan? :p

If he can't consistently stay healthy I wouldn't put a lot of money in someone who can't regularly see the field. Year after year he hasn't proven that he will be available.

I believe he has coach feeling frustrated and angry. When I see these two interact Payton always looks like he's about to lose it. I don't have a warm fuzzy feeling when I see these two together. His excessive celebrations and subsequent penalties didn't endear him to coach either. Oh, and I can't recall the last time a team mate talked to him on the side line except immediately after a big play. I'm not saying that I am a psychologist or an expert in human relationships....I just tend be observant.

And the thug mentality that I refer to is the big shows he puts on after a first down when we are getting blown out. I'm also referring to his excessive celebrations which hurt the team because of his stupid penalties. He has as yet to show me anything besides that thug mentality.

And finally.............Hell no I'm not an Auburn fan! I bleed Crimson baby. However, they are both fine institutions of higher learning.
I liked Ingram a lot coming out of Alabama. I was excited about him........but the glow has faded. I am glad he's playing better......just not glad enough to give him very much money against a tight cap.

Edit: JMHO:p

SloMotion 12-05-2014 04:16 AM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 628999)
If he can't consistently stay healthy I wouldn't put a lot of money in someone who can't regularly see the field. Year after year he hasn't proven that he will be available.

I believe he has coach feeling frustrated and angry. When I see these two interact Payton always looks like he's about to lose it. I don't have a warm fuzzy feeling when I see these two together. His excessive celebrations and subsequent penalties didn't endear him to coach either. Oh, and I can't recall the last time a team mate talked to him on the side line except immediately after a big play. I'm not saying that I am a psychologist or an expert in human relationships....I just tend be observant.

And the thug mentality that I refer to is the big shows he puts on after a first down when we are getting blown out. I'm also referring to his excessive celebrations which hurt the team because of his stupid penalties. He has as yet to show me anything besides that thug mentality.

And finally.............Hell no I'm not an Auburn fan! I bleed Crimson baby. However, they are both fine institutions of higher learning.
I liked Ingram a lot coming out of Alabama. I was excited about him........but the glow has faded. I am glad he's playing better......just not glad enough to give him very much money against a tight cap.

Edit: JMHO:p

Wow, you made some valid points injury-wise/teammate-wise and now I'm beginning to wonder if I really like him as much as I think I do, :lol:. I'm glad you clarified your definition of 'thug mentality' because that one kinda' threw me as well.

CharityMike 12-05-2014 10:02 AM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
Running backs are not getting paid what they use to. No one is going to break the bank for him. I truly believe we will find a way to keep him. He has shown this year that he can carry the rock when healthy.

lee909 12-05-2014 10:20 AM

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Big word there is WHEN healthy.

blackangold 12-05-2014 10:47 AM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
Hate to disappoint but he is going to walk. We won't have the money to sign him, and if we were to spend that kind of money on a RB then you might as well spend a bit more to get Peterson. I love Ingram but knowing how this organization is with RBs I think he is gone.

lee909 12-05-2014 11:01 AM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
We might have the money to sign him if the cap hits the heights some are suggesting. Some talks a few months back that the new TV deals will push the cap to $150ml.
If that's the case I would ideally see the team use the money taking hits on some big deals and making the ling term future better.

Budsdrinker 12-05-2014 11:12 AM

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In case no one has noticed but not a single one of our RB's has stayed healthy this year so the not staying healthy applies to all RB's not just Ingram.

lee909 12-05-2014 11:18 AM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
But the others are not looking for a multi million dollars extension.

I do think the Loom is should extend Robinson now if he can rather than risk loosing Ingram this year and Robinson next year

QBREES9 12-05-2014 12:32 PM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
Good for Mark. I hope you get it! You have have been Awesome this year.

Mardigras9 12-05-2014 01:19 PM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 628919)
All I know is that when faced with 4th and goal from the 1 yard line, I shriek in horror when he is the lone back lined up.

LOL, I hear you but most of those failed attempts have to be put on the O-line, he didn't even have a chance.

SloMotion 12-05-2014 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 629113)
Hate to disappoint but he is going to walk. We won't have the money to sign him, and if we were to spend that kind of money on a RB then you might as well spend a bit more to get Peterson. I love Ingram but knowing how this organization is with RBs I think he is gone.

Do that and it solves some of the O/L problem ... you really won't need one, other than to keep Drew upright.

saintsfan1976 12-05-2014 02:12 PM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 628999)
If he can't consistently stay healthy I wouldn't put a lot of money in someone who can't regularly see the field. Year after year he hasn't proven that he will be available.

I believe he has coach feeling frustrated and angry. When I see these two interact Payton always looks like he's about to lose it. I don't have a warm fuzzy feeling when I see these two together. His excessive celebrations and subsequent penalties didn't endear him to coach either. Oh, and I can't recall the last time a team mate talked to him on the side line except immediately after a big play. I'm not saying that I am a psychologist or an expert in human relationships....I just tend be observant.

And the thug mentality that I refer to is the big shows he puts on after a first down when we are getting blown out. I'm also referring to his excessive celebrations which hurt the team because of his stupid penalties. He has as yet to show me anything besides that thug mentality.

And finally.............Hell no I'm not an Auburn fan! I bleed Crimson baby. However, they are both fine institutions of higher learning.
I liked Ingram a lot coming out of Alabama. I was excited about him........but the glow has faded. I am glad he's playing better......just not glad enough to give him very much money against a tight cap.

Edit: JMHO:p

Dude. It's the NFL - no one stays healthy. But now that Ingram is, you can't argue the value of his production. Besides, the average time it takes a player to develop to "NFL readiness" is 3-4 years. You can argue that we gave too much to get him, but he's becoming the player Payton moved back into round 1 to secure.

Still think you're inferring waaay too much from what you've "observed" on the sidelines.

But you can rest easy because even if Loomis wanted to, there won't be enough money to over-pay him.

Cruize 12-05-2014 02:23 PM

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Ingram is gone. End of story. Thomas should be. Not worth the salary. It's Robinson's job to lose. Extend him with a raise but at a low rate. Cadet has the best hands on the team and is cheap. Pick up somebody in the draft. RB is never going to be the focal point of Payton's offense. It is what it is.

saintsfan1976 12-05-2014 02:26 PM

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Cadet is your answer??

Wow. We'd be in real trouble.

lee909 12-05-2014 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 629170)
Cadet is your answer??

Wow. We'd be in real trouble.

If Cadets the answer I don't want to know what the question is

saintsfan1976 12-05-2014 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 629173)
If Cadets the answer I don't want to know what the question is

I'll take "Which running back would you cut first" for $1,000 Alex!

dizzle88 12-05-2014 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 629173)
If Cadets the answer I don't want to know what the question is

The question is "Which saints RB is more of a threat to fumble than to score?"

Cadet.

CharityMike 12-05-2014 09:57 PM

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Cadet..lmbo..c'mon man..cadet would barely make most teams practice squad much less start. Give me a break..cadet..lol

The Dude 12-05-2014 10:41 PM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
I am proud of Mark. I have not been a fan and did not think he would ever be dominant on this team. He hung in there and has shut me up. I still don't think he is worth a big contract. They will find someone else to step up.

NOLA54 12-06-2014 12:18 AM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
Ingram performs better when he gets into a rhythm. This year due to injuries he has carried the ball more despite the games he missed due to the broken thumb, I would say 1,000 plus yards to end the regular season would be awesome.

aldocella1 12-06-2014 03:54 AM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
I like Mark and I hope he stays a Saint, but I have a feeling somebody's gonna want him a lot more than we do. I think he deserves big money, but Saints running backs don't make big money. Bet they let him go and keep the rest, with a few non drafted free agents next year.

Boutte 12-06-2014 12:07 PM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
I've been one of his critics and I never did like the pick. But since the end of last season and this whole season to date (except when injured) he's been outstanding. No crow eating because I think the criticism was valid.

As far as re-signing him, it depends on what it costs. He definitely become an asset but he's not irreplaceable.

Boutte 12-06-2014 12:14 PM

Re: Mark Ingram approaching 1000 yards
 
Anybody notice that he's on the injury report with the toe being listed as one of the problems. That concerns me. He's been gimping around on that toe his whole career.


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