SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10

MarchingOn · 12-07-2014, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Don't think we need a ton of changes...

New Center, new Guards, a pair of mean DTs that push the pocket, a decent #2 CB, a new ILB not named Hawthorne, and lastly new positional coaches across the board.

Guess that's not to much to ask for right?

lol

Agree, except I'd keep Jahri Evans and maybe even Grubbs. Don't watch enough tape to know, but I've seen Evens do some good things still.

Don't know why we don't move Lelito back to starter. We did better when he was starting, especially the run game plus he's apparently "the future" (or at least our backup for Center and both Guards).

We so need another ILB...2, in my opinion and at least 1 in most others' opinions.

I'd like a #2 CB and move Robinson to nickel covering the slot, if we keep him at all given a good price. He's gotten better the last few games, I think. White is a good backup or dime for a recent 5th rounder, I think.

I think losing Jenkins and maybe Harper hurt more than we thought, too.

halloween 65 · 12-07-2014, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

His change will be going to kfc before the game rather than Popeyes...

The things that need to change take years to build... the lines on both sides of the ball.

I agree it does take years to build. But a good draft and a couple FA next year along with a trade or 2 we could be in good shape, at least stong.Then we could see if Brees is Brees or not. If we could trade right, I would resign Ingram, he produced this year, can't say that for alot of the other players. Very spotty at time if any. Bunkley needs to go for sure.

MarchingOn · 12-07-2014, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Heard parts of Payton's post game presser.

He was adamant that changes will happen.

I'm eager to see exactly how responds.

Yeah, me, too (eager). I really believe he's going to make some big changes now. No paralysis by analysis.

Think it's silly to "wait" and then immediately fire people after the last game.

I think a coach/more are gone, some starters will become backups , and we find some off the street or off another team's practice squad. I'm excited to see if we find anything that works (like it looks as if we have with our brand-new PR Sanders).

Kind of glad our weaknesses got exposed all at once. Caused a mindshift in Payton. The press conference made me eager to see a change. Now I don't have to wait hopelessly for the draft and off-season.

What happens when Armstead goes out? We've Undrafted FA and lo-round draft picks as all our OL 2nd string. We've other teams' cast-offs, UFAs, and lo-round draft picks at LB. Can't run nor stop the run. Gee, wonder why? Thinking Payton/Loomis will finally draft accordingly.

halloween 65 · 12-08-2014, 05:10 AM

Originally Posted by MarchingOn

Yeah, me, too (eager). I really believe he's going to make some big changes now. No paralysis by analysis.

Think it's silly to "wait" and then immediately fire people after the last game.

I think a coach/more are gone, some starters will become backups , and we find some off the street or off another team's practice squad. I'm excited to see if we find anything that works (like it looks as if we have with our brand-new PR Sanders).

Kind of glad our weaknesses got exposed all at once. Caused a mindshift in Payton. The press conference made me eager to see a change. Now I don't have to wait hopelessly for the draft and off-season.

What happens when Armstead goes out? We've Undrafted FA and lo-round draft picks as all our OL 2nd string. We've other teams' cast-offs, UFAs, and lo-round draft picks at LB. Can't run nor stop the run. Gee, wonder why? Thinking Payton/Loomis will finally draft accordingly.

You have made a really valid point when you say our weaknesses got exposed all at once. It really has.

UK_WhoDat · 12-07-2014, 04:13 PM

Probably meant that there will be replacements for injuries

dizzle88 · 12-07-2014, 04:14 PM

Changes will happen -

He'll pass on 3rd and 2 instead of running.

saintsfan1976 · 12-07-2014, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Changes will happen -

He'll pass on 3rd and 2 instead of running.

If the O line can't block, then yes - he'll pass.

Since you brought it up - did you notice how much pressure Carolina got with only 4 guys? All day long.....

hagan714 · 12-08-2014, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

If the O line can't block, then yes - he'll pass.

Since you brought it up - did you notice how much pressure Carolina got with only 4 guys? All day long.....

did you notice we still try with just 3? over year now and we still try to rush just 3.

You would have thought some one might have picked up on the fact IT AINT WORKING

Rugby Saint II · 12-10-2014, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

If the O line can't block, then yes - he'll pass.

Since you brought it up - did you notice how much pressure Carolina got with only 4 guys? All day long.....

This is the biggest thing we have to fix now. We don't have the personnel to develop and the coaches aren't figuring a way to win.

Foot Stomper · 12-07-2014, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Changes will happen -

He'll pass on 3rd and 2 instead of running.

Don't come in here with that. We ran on 3rd and short and got stuffed. We did come back with a run on 4th and got it. Take shots at the offense as they surely deserve though.

Carolina whipped us in showboating and embarrassing fashion to take a 2 game lead in the all time series.

Playing for draft slotting. No way we need to make the playoffs at 8-8 and lose 15 slots or whatever it is in the draft process. Too bad we can't get a 4th place schedule out of this crap fest of a season.

Play some new blood that actually has some energy. We come out dead as can be with no emotion. Got whipped today by a bunch of no names who had pride.

12-07-2014, 08:14 PM	#1
MarchingOn 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 387 Blog Entries: 1	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Originally Posted by blackangold Don't think we need a ton of changes... New Center, new Guards, a pair of mean DTs that push the pocket, a decent #2 CB, a new ILB not named Hawthorne, and lastly new positional coaches across the board. Guess that's not to much to ask for right? lol Agree, except I'd keep Jahri Evans and maybe even Grubbs. Don't watch enough tape to know, but I've seen Evens do some good things still. Don't know why we don't move Lelito back to starter. We did better when he was starting, especially the run game plus he's apparently "the future" (or at least our backup for Center and both Guards). We so need another ILB...2, in my opinion and at least 1 in most others' opinions. I'd like a #2 CB and move Robinson to nickel covering the slot, if we keep him at all given a good price. He's gotten better the last few games, I think. White is a good backup or dime for a recent 5th rounder, I think. I think losing Jenkins and maybe Harper hurt more than we thought, too.

12-07-2014, 07:40 PM	#3
MarchingOn 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 387 Blog Entries: 1	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Heard parts of Payton's post game presser. He was adamant that changes will happen. I'm eager to see exactly how responds. Yeah, me, too (eager). I really believe he's going to make some big changes now. No paralysis by analysis. Think it's silly to "wait" and then immediately fire people after the last game. I think a coach/more are gone, some starters will become backups , and we find some off the street or off another team's practice squad. I'm excited to see if we find anything that works (like it looks as if we have with our brand-new PR Sanders). Kind of glad our weaknesses got exposed all at once. Caused a mindshift in Payton. The press conference made me eager to see a change. Now I don't have to wait hopelessly for the draft and off-season. What happens when Armstead goes out? We've Undrafted FA and lo-round draft picks as all our OL 2nd string. We've other teams' cast-offs, UFAs, and lo-round draft picks at LB. Can't run nor stop the run. Gee, wonder why? Thinking Payton/Loomis will finally draft accordingly.

12-08-2014, 05:10 AM	#4
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Originally Posted by MarchingOn Yeah, me, too (eager). I really believe he's going to make some big changes now. No paralysis by analysis. Think it's silly to "wait" and then immediately fire people after the last game. I think a coach/more are gone, some starters will become backups , and we find some off the street or off another team's practice squad. I'm excited to see if we find anything that works (like it looks as if we have with our brand-new PR Sanders). Kind of glad our weaknesses got exposed all at once. Caused a mindshift in Payton. The press conference made me eager to see a change. Now I don't have to wait hopelessly for the draft and off-season. What happens when Armstead goes out? We've Undrafted FA and lo-round draft picks as all our OL 2nd string. We've other teams' cast-offs, UFAs, and lo-round draft picks at LB. Can't run nor stop the run. Gee, wonder why? Thinking Payton/Loomis will finally draft accordingly. You have made a really valid point when you say our weaknesses got exposed all at once. It really has.

12-07-2014, 04:13 PM	#5
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,000	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Probably meant that there will be replacements for injuries

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Originally Posted by blackangold His change will be going to kfc before the game rather than Popeyes... The things that need to change take years to build... the lines on both sides of the ball. I agree it does take years to build. But a good draft and a couple FA next year along with a trade or 2 we could be in good shape, at least stong.Then we could see if Brees is Brees or not. If we could trade right, I would resign Ingram, he produced this year, can't say that for alot of the other players. Very spotty at time if any. Bunkley needs to go for sure. saintsfan1976 likes this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,991 Blog Entries: 3	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Originally Posted by dizzle88 Changes will happen - He'll pass on 3rd and 2 instead of running. If the O line can't block, then yes - he'll pass. Since you brought it up - did you notice how much pressure Carolina got with only 4 guys? All day long..... hagan714 and Rugby Saint II like this.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 If the O line can't block, then yes - he'll pass. Since you brought it up - did you notice how much pressure Carolina got with only 4 guys? All day long..... did you notice we still try with just 3? over year now and we still try to rush just 3. You would have thought some one might have picked up on the fact IT AINT WORKING

12-10-2014, 05:54 PM	#9
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,121	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 If the O line can't block, then yes - he'll pass. Since you brought it up - did you notice how much pressure Carolina got with only 4 guys? All day long..... This is the biggest thing we have to fix now. We don't have the personnel to develop and the coaches aren't figuring a way to win.

12-07-2014, 04:28 PM	#10
Foot Stomper Carolina Sucks Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 379	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Originally Posted by dizzle88 Changes will happen - He'll pass on 3rd and 2 instead of running. Don't come in here with that. We ran on 3rd and short and got stuffed. We did come back with a run on 4th and got it. Take shots at the offense as they surely deserve though. Carolina whipped us in showboating and embarrassing fashion to take a 2 game lead in the all time series. Playing for draft slotting. No way we need to make the playoffs at 8-8 and lose 15 slots or whatever it is in the draft process. Too bad we can't get a 4th place schedule out of this crap fest of a season. Play some new blood that actually has some energy. We come out dead as can be with no emotion. Got whipped today by a bunch of no names who had pride. MarchingOn likes this.

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