SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10

12-07-2014, 11:04 PM

The only CHANGE that's going to happen in the next week is that the players will be wearing long-johns in Chicago.

pumpkindriver · 12-07-2014, 11:31 PM

Our Saints are awful.

halloween 65 · 12-08-2014, 05:10 AM

Originally Posted by MarchingOn

Yeah, me, too (eager). I really believe he's going to make some big changes now. No paralysis by analysis.

Think it's silly to "wait" and then immediately fire people after the last game.

I think a coach/more are gone, some starters will become backups , and we find some off the street or off another team's practice squad. I'm excited to see if we find anything that works (like it looks as if we have with our brand-new PR Sanders).

Kind of glad our weaknesses got exposed all at once. Caused a mindshift in Payton. The press conference made me eager to see a change. Now I don't have to wait hopelessly for the draft and off-season.

What happens when Armstead goes out? We've Undrafted FA and lo-round draft picks as all our OL 2nd string. We've other teams' cast-offs, UFAs, and lo-round draft picks at LB. Can't run nor stop the run. Gee, wonder why? Thinking Payton/Loomis will finally draft accordingly.

You have made a really valid point when you say our weaknesses got exposed all at once. It really has.

hagan714 · 12-08-2014, 05:47 AM

ok i slept on it.
still the top 5 in all time worse games i have ever seen.
how do you game plan for SP? the unexpected is expected
how do you game plan for Rob? You don't. same ol same ol

To be honest I have to admit there is a shot at getting the crown still. Granted we need to win out right or start praying to the football gods for help. Me? I have been doing that for weeks now.

If by their graces we make the playoffs it will be a cameo appearance. we are just to beat up to go anywhere and have been for over 8 games now.

what have we learned. our depth in the secondary is not so bad. Young and way to inexperienced. there is something worth spending time on in this group to develop.

I can not judge this group as a whole because of the injuries but i can judge these things

1) how the defense is lined up each and every play.

I sit there week after week and see what is going to be run based on the defensive set. No surprises and we still can not manage to stop or adjust to stop it

2) will this team fight to the end?

This is the first time i have seen an SP coached team just give up. they just gave up! There is an old saying in foot ball. When your losing you can tell a lot about a player by the way he plays all the way to the end.

Well not a good sign when SP joins in at the end and just wants to go home. this i can not accept. there is serious problems and SP needs to get this handled.

SloMotion · 12-08-2014, 05:49 AM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

The only CHANGE that's going to happen in the next week is that the players will be wearing long-johns in Chicago.

... do they call them "long-johns" anymore?

hagan714 · 12-08-2014, 05:54 AM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

The only CHANGE that's going to happen in the next week is that the players will be wearing long-johns in Chicago.

Originally Posted by SloMotion

... do they call them "long-johns" anymore?

i believe they do. all i know is we better go back to some old school style in Chitown. you know the long johns with a flap in the back. If we play like we did sunday we will need it. hate to see this team covered in their own crap if we lay that many turds on the field again.

jlaw8920 · 12-08-2014, 07:48 AM

[QUOTE=hagan714;629921]

what have we learned. our depth in the secondary is not so bad. Young and way to inexperienced. there is something worth spending time on in this group to develop.

I agree with everything else but I think a #2 cb is a definite need for pick up in draft or free agency. Ryan has been awful at scheming and adjustments this year. However, I do think those all out blitzes would be working a lot more if our #2&#3 CBs could stay on their man in man coverage for more than 2 seconds.

hagan714 · 12-08-2014, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

If the O line can't block, then yes - he'll pass.

Since you brought it up - did you notice how much pressure Carolina got with only 4 guys? All day long.....

did you notice we still try with just 3? over year now and we still try to rush just 3.

You would have thought some one might have picked up on the fact IT AINT WORKING

hagan714 · 12-08-2014, 08:29 AM

[quote=jlaw8920;629941]

Originally Posted by hagan714

I agree with everything else but I think a #2 cb is a definite need for pick up in draft or free agency. Ryan has been awful at scheming and adjustments this year. However, I do think those all out blitzes would be working a lot more if our #2&#3 CBs could stay on their man in man coverage for more than 2 seconds.

i agree 100% please do not let me miss lead you. A #2 CB that can play man coverage is #1 on my priority list, we gotta make the Vaccaro and Byrd work and Lewis can only do so much. White is a nickle and dime guy that you should be able to plug in at SS. he may surprise people at SS and make the Vaccaro pick look really bad. We all know he can tackle.

But with out enough solid CB we will never know. This would have been the year to test that idea out. anyways the draft looks good on cover CB this year. much better than last year.

This years group of CB would have made SJB feel really lucky to get picked at the bottom of the third round

there is hope

Danno · 12-09-2014, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Wanna bet Vaccaro gets benched?

Toot bump

12-07-2014, 11:04 PM	#41
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12-07-2014, 11:31 PM	#42
pumpkindriver 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Killeen, Tx. Posts: 932	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Our Saints are awful. K Major likes this.

12-08-2014, 05:10 AM	#43
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Originally Posted by MarchingOn Yeah, me, too (eager). I really believe he's going to make some big changes now. No paralysis by analysis. Think it's silly to "wait" and then immediately fire people after the last game. I think a coach/more are gone, some starters will become backups , and we find some off the street or off another team's practice squad. I'm excited to see if we find anything that works (like it looks as if we have with our brand-new PR Sanders). Kind of glad our weaknesses got exposed all at once. Caused a mindshift in Payton. The press conference made me eager to see a change. Now I don't have to wait hopelessly for the draft and off-season. What happens when Armstead goes out? We've Undrafted FA and lo-round draft picks as all our OL 2nd string. We've other teams' cast-offs, UFAs, and lo-round draft picks at LB. Can't run nor stop the run. Gee, wonder why? Thinking Payton/Loomis will finally draft accordingly. You have made a really valid point when you say our weaknesses got exposed all at once. It really has.

12-08-2014, 05:47 AM	#44
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 ok i slept on it. still the top 5 in all time worse games i have ever seen. how do you game plan for SP? the unexpected is expected how do you game plan for Rob? You don't. same ol same ol To be honest I have to admit there is a shot at getting the crown still. Granted we need to win out right or start praying to the football gods for help. Me? I have been doing that for weeks now. If by their graces we make the playoffs it will be a cameo appearance. we are just to beat up to go anywhere and have been for over 8 games now. what have we learned. our depth in the secondary is not so bad. Young and way to inexperienced. there is something worth spending time on in this group to develop. I can not judge this group as a whole because of the injuries but i can judge these things 1) how the defense is lined up each and every play. I sit there week after week and see what is going to be run based on the defensive set. No surprises and we still can not manage to stop or adjust to stop it 2) will this team fight to the end? This is the first time i have seen an SP coached team just give up. they just gave up! There is an old saying in foot ball. When your losing you can tell a lot about a player by the way he plays all the way to the end. Well not a good sign when SP joins in at the end and just wants to go home. this i can not accept. there is serious problems and SP needs to get this handled. nutria and Barry from MS like this.
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12-08-2014, 05:49 AM	#45
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12-08-2014, 05:54 AM	#46
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints The only CHANGE that's going to happen in the next week is that the players will be wearing long-johns in Chicago. Originally Posted by SloMotion ... do they call them "long-johns" anymore? i believe they do. all i know is we better go back to some old school style in Chitown. you know the long johns with a flap in the back. If we play like we did sunday we will need it. hate to see this team covered in their own crap if we lay that many turds on the field again. SloMotion likes this.

12-08-2014, 07:48 AM	#47
jlaw8920 100th Post Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 123	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 [QUOTE=hagan714;629921] what have we learned. our depth in the secondary is not so bad. Young and way to inexperienced. there is something worth spending time on in this group to develop. I agree with everything else but I think a #2 cb is a definite need for pick up in draft or free agency. Ryan has been awful at scheming and adjustments this year. However, I do think those all out blitzes would be working a lot more if our #2&#3 CBs could stay on their man in man coverage for more than 2 seconds. hagan714 likes this.
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12-08-2014, 08:21 AM	#48
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 If the O line can't block, then yes - he'll pass. Since you brought it up - did you notice how much pressure Carolina got with only 4 guys? All day long..... did you notice we still try with just 3? over year now and we still try to rush just 3. You would have thought some one might have picked up on the fact IT AINT WORKING

12-08-2014, 08:29 AM	#49
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 [quote=jlaw8920;629941] Originally Posted by hagan714 I agree with everything else but I think a #2 cb is a definite need for pick up in draft or free agency. Ryan has been awful at scheming and adjustments this year. However, I do think those all out blitzes would be working a lot more if our #2&#3 CBs could stay on their man in man coverage for more than 2 seconds. i agree 100% please do not let me miss lead you. A #2 CB that can play man coverage is #1 on my priority list, we gotta make the Vaccaro and Byrd work and Lewis can only do so much. White is a nickle and dime guy that you should be able to plug in at SS. he may surprise people at SS and make the Vaccaro pick look really bad. We all know he can tackle. But with out enough solid CB we will never know. This would have been the year to test that idea out. anyways the draft looks good on cover CB this year. much better than last year. This years group of CB would have made SJB feel really lucky to get picked at the bottom of the third round there is hope jlaw8920 likes this.
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12-09-2014, 08:46 PM	#50
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,752	Re: SAINTS BLOWN OUT AT HOME BY CAROLINA 41-10 Originally Posted by Danno Wanna bet Vaccaro gets benched? Toot bump saintsfan1976 likes this.

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