Maybe we won't make the playoffs

dizzle88 · 12-08-2014, 08:25 AM

Should have traded Jimmy Graham when we had the chance

He's barely targeted on game day and drops passes that come his way

Having atleast 1 first rounder for him would have done nicely.

iceshack149 · 12-08-2014, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Should have traded Jimmy Graham when we had the chance

He's barely targeted on game day and drops passes that come his way

Having atleast 1 first rounder for him would have done nicely.

I saw three drops yesterday. I can't find the stats on this crappy hotel computer. Drops from everyone. Dropped passes, injuries and lethargy. Sad display.

darksoul35 · 12-08-2014, 08:58 AM

I would still take Graham over any other TE in the league but I feel ur frustration. We don't do very well with first rounders anyway.

TheGambler · 12-08-2014, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

We may play on a home field, but we have lost any advantage that a home team may have.

These home fans walked out at the 4th quarter. Those footsteps are heard all the way up in Benson's suite.

4th qtr? I wouldn't have faulted someone if they told me they bounced at halftime in this one.

Not saying I'd have done that. Just saying I wouldn't have faulted someone else for it. The team acted like they didn't wanna be there, why should the fans?

K Major · 12-08-2014, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by TheGambler

4th qtr? I wouldn't have faulted someone if they told me they bounced at halftime in this one.

Not saying I'd have done that. Just saying I wouldn't have faulted someone else for it. The team acted like they didn't wanna be there, why should the fans?

I wasn't able to attend this one live, however I turned OFF my TV mid way 3rd quarter & helped my kids with a science project. Just couldn't stomach much more. No fight whatsoever.

saintsfan1976 · 12-08-2014, 09:45 AM

After watching Gronk this year, he's clearly better than Graham.

Yes, Graham is good. Yes he can dominate mismatches but by nature, that's what a mismatch is...

Gronk however completely steamrolls anyone who gets in his way.

Right now, Josh Hill is performing on Graham's level.

brees84 · 12-08-2014, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by darksoul35

I would still take Graham over any other TE in the league but I feel ur frustration. We don't do very well with first rounders anyway.

I have to say that JG is nowhere near the Gronk talent. I am talking about "catching the football". That guy has glue on his hands and makes Brady look better than he really is. In every game I see bad throws from Brady (behind receiver, too low, 2-3 yds off target) and somehow that monster makes tha catch (sliding, diving, out-muscling opponents...).
Brees has to hit Jimmy in the chest every time or place it right above him for grabs. Small margin for error. And now he is dropping those also...

dizzle88 · 12-08-2014, 09:51 AM

Plus it doesn't matter who lines up on Gronk, he's physical enough to beat them

If someone gets physical with Graham he wusses out for the rest of the game.

hagan714 · 12-08-2014, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by darksoul35

I would still take Graham over any other TE in the league but I feel ur frustration. We don't do very well with first rounders anyway.

what the saints need to help Jimmy out is a WR that is not afraid to go into the middle of the field. that was the big difference between Cooks and Beckham.

I am hoping Breshad Perriman, South Florida comes out myself. Brett Perriman kid. every one has him as a third but he maybe one of the surprise picks on draft day going much higher than people thought.

This is an area that has been killing the saints. IMO

saintsfan1976 · 12-08-2014, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Plus it doesn't matter who lines up on Gronk, he's physical enough to beat them

If someone gets physical with Graham he wusses out for the rest of the game.

Do why have a psychiatrist on staff?

Lay that kid on the sideline table and let him talk it out!

12-08-2014, 08:25 AM	#21
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,358	Re: Maybe we won't make the playoffs Should have traded Jimmy Graham when we had the chance He's barely targeted on game day and drops passes that come his way Having atleast 1 first rounder for him would have done nicely. iceshack149 likes this.

12-08-2014, 08:57 AM	#22
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,299 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Maybe we won't make the playoffs Originally Posted by dizzle88 Should have traded Jimmy Graham when we had the chance He's barely targeted on game day and drops passes that come his way Having atleast 1 first rounder for him would have done nicely. I saw three drops yesterday. I can't find the stats on this crappy hotel computer. Drops from everyone. Dropped passes, injuries and lethargy. Sad display.

12-08-2014, 08:58 AM	#23
darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,041	Re: Maybe we won't make the playoffs I would still take Graham over any other TE in the league but I feel ur frustration. We don't do very well with first rounders anyway. hagan714 likes this.
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TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	Re: Maybe we won't make the playoffs Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints We may play on a home field, but we have lost any advantage that a home team may have. These home fans walked out at the 4th quarter. Those footsteps are heard all the way up in Benson's suite. 4th qtr? I wouldn't have faulted someone if they told me they bounced at halftime in this one. Not saying I'd have done that. Just saying I wouldn't have faulted someone else for it. The team acted like they didn't wanna be there, why should the fans? K Major likes this.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Maybe we won't make the playoffs Originally Posted by TheGambler 4th qtr? I wouldn't have faulted someone if they told me they bounced at halftime in this one. Not saying I'd have done that. Just saying I wouldn't have faulted someone else for it. The team acted like they didn't wanna be there, why should the fans? I wasn't able to attend this one live, however I turned OFF my TV mid way 3rd quarter & helped my kids with a science project. Just couldn't stomach much more. No fight whatsoever.

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12-08-2014, 09:45 AM	#26
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Maybe we won't make the playoffs After watching Gronk this year, he's clearly better than Graham. Yes, Graham is good. Yes he can dominate mismatches but by nature, that's what a mismatch is... Gronk however completely steamrolls anyone who gets in his way. Right now, Josh Hill is performing on Graham's level.

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brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: Maybe we won't make the playoffs Originally Posted by darksoul35 I would still take Graham over any other TE in the league but I feel ur frustration. We don't do very well with first rounders anyway. I have to say that JG is nowhere near the Gronk talent. I am talking about "catching the football". That guy has glue on his hands and makes Brady look better than he really is. In every game I see bad throws from Brady (behind receiver, too low, 2-3 yds off target) and somehow that monster makes tha catch (sliding, diving, out-muscling opponents...). Brees has to hit Jimmy in the chest every time or place it right above him for grabs. Small margin for error. And now he is dropping those also... UK_WhoDat, saintsfan1976 and dizzle88 like this.
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12-08-2014, 09:51 AM	#28
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,358	Re: Maybe we won't make the playoffs Plus it doesn't matter who lines up on Gronk, he's physical enough to beat them If someone gets physical with Graham he wusses out for the rest of the game. saintsfan1976 likes this.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Maybe we won't make the playoffs Originally Posted by darksoul35 I would still take Graham over any other TE in the league but I feel ur frustration. We don't do very well with first rounders anyway. what the saints need to help Jimmy out is a WR that is not afraid to go into the middle of the field. that was the big difference between Cooks and Beckham. I am hoping Breshad Perriman, South Florida comes out myself. Brett Perriman kid. every one has him as a third but he maybe one of the surprise picks on draft day going much higher than people thought. This is an area that has been killing the saints. IMO

12-08-2014, 09:57 AM	#30
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Maybe we won't make the playoffs Originally Posted by dizzle88 Plus it doesn't matter who lines up on Gronk, he's physical enough to beat them If someone gets physical with Graham he wusses out for the rest of the game. Do why have a psychiatrist on staff? Lay that kid on the sideline table and let him talk it out!

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