Cancer in the locker room

billyt81 · 12-10-2014, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by darksoul35

Sorry rap died With Pac and Biggie. All the artist that you mentioned are female pop singers.

How true! What happened to music? New rock is not much better. Maybe I'm just old.

lee909 · 12-08-2014, 02:53 AM

I don't think Payton has been the same since returning from his years suspension. His play calling just has not been the same imo.

The Galette contract is looking like another massive millstone around the teams neck. These massive contracts that Loomis keeps overpaying are going too sink this team

From overthecap
This is another in a long line of mega contracts for the Saints who are clearly all in when it comes to this season. Galette’s cap number only increased by $50,000 this year but the monstrous $15.45 million cap charge next season has left the Saints with around $160 million in cap charges for their top 51 players. The team has five players with cap charges in excess of $10 million and eight players over $9 million. They are basically replacing the Dallas Cowboys as the baseline for current cap manipulations with minimal regard for the future.

Galette will likely have his contract restructured next season which will make what looks like manageable future contract figures high end figures and creating more trouble for the Saints in the future.

jlouhill · 12-08-2014, 05:36 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

I don't think Payton has been the same since returning from his years suspension.

100% agree. I said the exact same thing to someone at work earlier in the season. I've also felt almost from game one that something isn't right with this team this year. There's something going on behind the scenes that we aren't privy to. JMO.

hagan714 · 12-08-2014, 06:12 AM

SP has produced the stats do not lie in this fact

The nfl is use to to his play calling. expect the unexpected and you can bet most will be too cute for their own good.

Why is does everyone have an issue with saying Greg Williams was hands down the best DC the saints have in what last 20 years? I do not care if you do not like him as a person. he got the job done no matter what he was handed to work with.

A bunch of back ups from other teams that were just solid football players looked and played harder than any thing we have now. remember that is the group that won us a super bowl. Backup that no matter who you drafted or signed in FA would not give up the starting job without a fight. well 99% of the time they held on to it. Shanle is my favorite example. god knows we tried to replace him. he just would not go walk away with out a fight. gotta respect that in the man

maybe that is the issue. we have stopped adding players that love the game and want to play 110% no matter the score. attitude. hunger. desire. passion. call it what ever you like it has been leaving town since the super bowl and well it appears town is just about empty.

A blue collar lunch pail toting mentality may just be what the doctor orders to cure this sickness.

Barry from MS · 12-08-2014, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

A blue collar lunch pail toting mentality may just be what the doctor orders to cure this sickness.

I'd take a Middle Linebacker that can square-up and wrap-up a running back for a 1-2 yard gain on 1st and 10 consistently than what we have now:

A safety pile-driving a running back for a 6 yard gain on 2nd and 10 then jumping up to "Sammy Sosa" himself then following it up with his own version of the Humpty Dance.

Football awareness & Football IQ are certainly not what the cool kids are learning about or practicing anymore.

saintsfan1976 · 12-08-2014, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Football awareness & Football IQ are certainly not what the cool kids are learning about or practicing anymore.

Back to a comment I made before: Are Payton's players thinking more than playing?

Barry from MS · 12-08-2014, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Back to a comment I made before: Are Payton's players thinking more than playing?

If they don't start winning, they'll be thinking waaay more than they'll be playing.

If I didn't say it, somebody else would have...

nutria · 12-08-2014, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

SP has produced the stats do not lie in this fact

The nfl is use to to his play calling. expect the unexpected and you can bet most will be too cute for their own good.

Why is does everyone have an issue with saying Greg Williams was hands down the best DC the saints have in what last 20 years? I do not care if you do not like him as a person. he got the job done no matter what he was handed to work with.

A bunch of back ups from other teams that were just solid football players looked and played harder than any thing we have now. remember that is the group that won us a super bowl. Backup that no matter who you drafted or signed in FA would not give up the starting job without a fight. well 99% of the time they held on to it. Shanle is my favorite example. god knows we tried to replace him. he just would not go walk away with out a fight. gotta respect that in the man

maybe that is the issue. we have stopped adding players that love the game and want to play 110% no matter the score. attitude. hunger. desire. passion. call it what ever you like it has been leaving town since the super bowl and well it appears town is just about empty.

A blue collar lunch pail toting mentality may just be what the doctor orders to cure this sickness.

Everybody is too fat now, happens in business and in football. The ones that want it more and are willing to do the things that the losers won't end up with the win. Applies to the coaches and the team.

spkb25 · 12-10-2014, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

SP has produced the stats do not lie in this fact

The nfl is use to to his play calling. expect the unexpected and you can bet most will be too cute for their own good.

Why is does everyone have an issue with saying Greg Williams was hands down the best DC the saints have in what last 20 years? I do not care if you do not like him as a person. he got the job done no matter what he was handed to work with.

A bunch of back ups from other teams that were just solid football players looked and played harder than any thing we have now. remember that is the group that won us a super bowl. Backup that no matter who you drafted or signed in FA would not give up the starting job without a fight. well 99% of the time they held on to it. Shanle is my favorite example. god knows we tried to replace him. he just would not go walk away with out a fight. gotta respect that in the man

maybe that is the issue. we have stopped adding players that love the game and want to play 110% no matter the score. attitude. hunger. desire. passion. call it what ever you like it has been leaving town since the super bowl and well it appears town is just about empty.

A blue collar lunch pail toting mentality may just be what the doctor orders to cure this sickness.

Was just thinking this the other day, I'd give my left nut to have SS back out there playing LB

Mardigras9 · 12-08-2014, 11:39 AM

Payton will get it done.

12-10-2014, 03:30 PM	#1
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: Cancer in the locker room Originally Posted by darksoul35 Sorry rap died With Pac and Biggie. All the artist that you mentioned are female pop singers. How true! What happened to music? New rock is not much better. Maybe I'm just old.

12-08-2014, 02:53 AM	#2
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Cancer in the locker room I don't think Payton has been the same since returning from his years suspension. His play calling just has not been the same imo. The Galette contract is looking like another massive millstone around the teams neck. These massive contracts that Loomis keeps overpaying are going too sink this team From overthecap This is another in a long line of mega contracts for the Saints who are clearly all in when it comes to this season. Galette’s cap number only increased by $50,000 this year but the monstrous $15.45 million cap charge next season has left the Saints with around $160 million in cap charges for their top 51 players. The team has five players with cap charges in excess of $10 million and eight players over $9 million. They are basically replacing the Dallas Cowboys as the baseline for current cap manipulations with minimal regard for the future. Galette will likely have his contract restructured next season which will make what looks like manageable future contract figures high end figures and creating more trouble for the Saints in the future.
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12-08-2014, 05:36 AM	#3
jlouhill 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Denton, Tx. Posts: 692	Re: Cancer in the locker room Originally Posted by lee909 I don't think Payton has been the same since returning from his years suspension. 100% agree. I said the exact same thing to someone at work earlier in the season. I've also felt almost from game one that something isn't right with this team this year. There's something going on behind the scenes that we aren't privy to. JMO.

12-08-2014, 06:12 AM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Cancer in the locker room SP has produced the stats do not lie in this fact The nfl is use to to his play calling. expect the unexpected and you can bet most will be too cute for their own good. Why is does everyone have an issue with saying Greg Williams was hands down the best DC the saints have in what last 20 years? I do not care if you do not like him as a person. he got the job done no matter what he was handed to work with. A bunch of back ups from other teams that were just solid football players looked and played harder than any thing we have now. remember that is the group that won us a super bowl. Backup that no matter who you drafted or signed in FA would not give up the starting job without a fight. well 99% of the time they held on to it. Shanle is my favorite example. god knows we tried to replace him. he just would not go walk away with out a fight. gotta respect that in the man maybe that is the issue. we have stopped adding players that love the game and want to play 110% no matter the score. attitude. hunger. desire. passion. call it what ever you like it has been leaving town since the super bowl and well it appears town is just about empty. A blue collar lunch pail toting mentality may just be what the doctor orders to cure this sickness. MatthewT, nutria, saintsfan1976 and 3 others like this.
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins Last edited by hagan714; 12-08-2014 at 07:16 AM..

12-08-2014, 11:34 AM	#5
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Cancer in the locker room Originally Posted by hagan714 A blue collar lunch pail toting mentality may just be what the doctor orders to cure this sickness. I'd take a Middle Linebacker that can square-up and wrap-up a running back for a 1-2 yard gain on 1st and 10 consistently than what we have now: A safety pile-driving a running back for a 6 yard gain on 2nd and 10 then jumping up to "Sammy Sosa" himself then following it up with his own version of the Humpty Dance. Football awareness & Football IQ are certainly not what the cool kids are learning about or practicing anymore. Danno, saintsfan1976 and MarchingOn like this.

12-08-2014, 11:44 AM	#6
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,011 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Cancer in the locker room Originally Posted by Barry from MS Football awareness & Football IQ are certainly not what the cool kids are learning about or practicing anymore. Back to a comment I made before: Are Payton's players thinking more than playing?

12-08-2014, 11:49 AM	#7
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Cancer in the locker room Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Back to a comment I made before: Are Payton's players thinking more than playing? If they don't start winning, they'll be thinking waaay more than they'll be playing. If I didn't say it, somebody else would have... MarchingOn likes this.

12-08-2014, 01:47 PM	#8
nutria Sac-A-Lait Join Date: May 2006 Location: Prairieville, LA Posts: 262	Re: Cancer in the locker room Originally Posted by hagan714 SP has produced the stats do not lie in this fact The nfl is use to to his play calling. expect the unexpected and you can bet most will be too cute for their own good. Why is does everyone have an issue with saying Greg Williams was hands down the best DC the saints have in what last 20 years? I do not care if you do not like him as a person. he got the job done no matter what he was handed to work with. A bunch of back ups from other teams that were just solid football players looked and played harder than any thing we have now. remember that is the group that won us a super bowl. Backup that no matter who you drafted or signed in FA would not give up the starting job without a fight. well 99% of the time they held on to it. Shanle is my favorite example. god knows we tried to replace him. he just would not go walk away with out a fight. gotta respect that in the man maybe that is the issue. we have stopped adding players that love the game and want to play 110% no matter the score. attitude. hunger. desire. passion. call it what ever you like it has been leaving town since the super bowl and well it appears town is just about empty. A blue collar lunch pail toting mentality may just be what the doctor orders to cure this sickness. Everybody is too fat now, happens in business and in football. The ones that want it more and are willing to do the things that the losers won't end up with the win. Applies to the coaches and the team. Barry from MS likes this.

12-10-2014, 11:16 PM	#9
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,138	Re: Cancer in the locker room Originally Posted by hagan714 SP has produced the stats do not lie in this fact The nfl is use to to his play calling. expect the unexpected and you can bet most will be too cute for their own good. Why is does everyone have an issue with saying Greg Williams was hands down the best DC the saints have in what last 20 years? I do not care if you do not like him as a person. he got the job done no matter what he was handed to work with. A bunch of back ups from other teams that were just solid football players looked and played harder than any thing we have now. remember that is the group that won us a super bowl. Backup that no matter who you drafted or signed in FA would not give up the starting job without a fight. well 99% of the time they held on to it. Shanle is my favorite example. god knows we tried to replace him. he just would not go walk away with out a fight. gotta respect that in the man maybe that is the issue. we have stopped adding players that love the game and want to play 110% no matter the score. attitude. hunger. desire. passion. call it what ever you like it has been leaving town since the super bowl and well it appears town is just about empty. A blue collar lunch pail toting mentality may just be what the doctor orders to cure this sickness. Was just thinking this the other day, I'd give my left nut to have SS back out there playing LB

12-08-2014, 11:39 AM	#10
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Cancer in the locker room Payton will get it done.

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