John DeShazier: No positives for Saints in blowout loss to Panthers

12-08-2014, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

There was something I liked in the press conference. Payton was asked about the effort, and hinted that the film will reveal who kept fighting till the end.

I view that as he’s gonna find out who quit, and do something about it.

Well, good luck to him picking a scapegoat. They all quit...

Danno · 12-08-2014, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by brees84

Well, good luck to him picking a scapegoat. They all quit...

Disagree. Dixon, White, Saunders, Toon, Lofton, Robinson, Ingram, Lewis, Colston and several others did not quit.

Don't confuse poor play with poor effort.

halloween 65 · 12-08-2014, 11:18 AM

I also think that Dixon for an UDFA to play as well as he has(he has made mistakes) has a tremendous ceiling. Might become an overlooked steal. Remember Byrd will be healthy next year and between him and Warren we should be set a FS for a while. I would trade Bush. I really can't say what to do with Vaccaro, the way the front 7 have played has effected all the DB.s.

Mardigras9 · 12-08-2014, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by brees84

20+ sec left and 2 timeouts and you just stand there. Really sad decision.

I had no problem with it.
Ok, you beat our ass this time (real bad), let's take it to the house and not get anyone hurt, we will see you again.

skymike · 12-08-2014, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

...
I think the lesson to be learned in all this is that you can have the QB and you can have all the weapons but if you don't have a line you have SH*t. They need to rebuild or retool this team starting with the OL and DL from the inside out. Start with the C and work you're way out - Start with DT and work your way to DE.

I'll second that!

Originally Posted by Danno

A Jim Finks disciple I see.

O-line and D-line. All the great teams had great lines. They make average players great, they make great players Hall of Famers.

wow, you guys arent usually agreeable. maybe we're getting some locker room chemistry on the board...

Danno · 12-08-2014, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

I'll second that!

wow, you guys arent usually agreeable. maybe we're getting some locker room chemistry on the board...

I think most of us old guys know that Finks' philosophy is a proven winner.
Dominate the trenches and even mediocre skill players can succeed.

The dome patrol LB's will tell you right off, those 3 guys up front made their jobs a lot easier.

RailBoss · 12-09-2014, 03:44 AM

We are so far removed from the Dome Patrol day's it's not even funny. It's a shame back then we never had a stable Offense to compliment them.

skymike · 12-09-2014, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

We are so far removed from the Dome Patrol day's it's not even funny. It's a shame back then we never had a stable Offense to compliment them.

RB, it feels like it was a month ago, when I was
sitting in the Terrace watching Frank Warren and Rickey Jackson and Jumpy and Bruce and Tony Elliot and Frank Wattelet knock the snot out of visiting teams.

Rugby Saint II · 12-09-2014, 05:37 PM

My one positive that I take away from this is..............wait for it...............ok, I've got nothing!

12-08-2014, 10:55 AM	#11
Threaded by brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by Danno There was something I liked in the press conference. Payton was asked about the effort, and hinted that the film will reveal who kept fighting till the end. I view that as he’s gonna find out who quit, and do something about it. Well, good luck to him picking a scapegoat. They all quit... teddybarexxx likes this.
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12-08-2014, 11:13 AM	#12
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: John DeShazier: No positives for Saints in blowout loss to Panthers Originally Posted by brees84 Well, good luck to him picking a scapegoat. They all quit... Disagree. Dixon, White, Saunders, Toon, Lofton, Robinson, Ingram, Lewis, Colston and several others did not quit. Don't confuse poor play with poor effort.

12-08-2014, 11:18 AM	#13
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: John DeShazier: No positives for Saints in blowout loss to Panthers I also think that Dixon for an UDFA to play as well as he has(he has made mistakes) has a tremendous ceiling. Might become an overlooked steal. Remember Byrd will be healthy next year and between him and Warren we should be set a FS for a while. I would trade Bush. I really can't say what to do with Vaccaro, the way the front 7 have played has effected all the DB.s.

12-08-2014, 12:32 PM	#14
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: John DeShazier: No positives for Saints in blowout loss to Panthers Originally Posted by brees84 20+ sec left and 2 timeouts and you just stand there. Really sad decision. I had no problem with it. Ok, you beat our ass this time (real bad), let's take it to the house and not get anyone hurt, we will see you again.

12-08-2014, 06:18 PM	#15
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: John DeShazier: No positives for Saints in blowout loss to Panthers Originally Posted by Euphoria ... I think the lesson to be learned in all this is that you can have the QB and you can have all the weapons but if you don't have a line you have SHt. They need to rebuild or retool this team starting with the OL and DL from the inside out. Start with the C and work you're way out - Start with DT and work your way to DE. I'll second that!* Originally Posted by Danno A Jim Finks disciple I see. O-line and D-line. All the great teams had great lines. They make average players great, they make great players Hall of Famers. wow, you guys arent usually agreeable. maybe we're getting some locker room chemistry on the board... Danno likes this.

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12-08-2014, 07:12 PM	#16
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: John DeShazier: No positives for Saints in blowout loss to Panthers Originally Posted by skymike I'll second that! wow, you guys arent usually agreeable. maybe we're getting some locker room chemistry on the board... I think most of us old guys know that Finks' philosophy is a proven winner. Dominate the trenches and even mediocre skill players can succeed. The dome patrol LB's will tell you right off, those 3 guys up front made their jobs a lot easier. RailBoss likes this.

12-09-2014, 03:44 AM	#17
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: John DeShazier: No positives for Saints in blowout loss to Panthers We are so far removed from the Dome Patrol day's it's not even funny. It's a shame back then we never had a stable Offense to compliment them.

12-09-2014, 05:15 PM	#18
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: John DeShazier: No positives for Saints in blowout loss to Panthers Originally Posted by RailBoss We are so far removed from the Dome Patrol day's it's not even funny. It's a shame back then we never had a stable Offense to compliment them. RB, it feels like it was a month ago, when I was sitting in the Terrace watching Frank Warren and Rickey Jackson and Jumpy and Bruce and Tony Elliot and Frank Wattelet knock the snot out of visiting teams.

12-09-2014, 05:37 PM	#19
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: John DeShazier: No positives for Saints in blowout loss to Panthers My one positive that I take away from this is..............wait for it...............ok, I've got nothing!

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